Leicester v Manchester United : Fa Cup QF : Official Match Thread 5pm : 21/3/21

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

No question that we need some good additions in the summer.

If anything, the present squad has over-performed this campaign - making the determination of some to blame our manager all the more baffling.

Both can be true.

It’s not so much Ole, but look at the people higher up, and his coaches. He has no chance. Also, What walk of life would someone with so little experience walk into a top job like this?

Yes, he probably does ‘get the club’ but then so do you and I, and I’m not sure we could do the job.

He has too much working against him around him, I.e. our structure, to succeed sadly.

Originally Posted by tatty

I chuckled at your username anagram.

I assume it is intentional.

No it’s just always been my username what’s the anagram

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

My biggest concern with the Europa is that we turn up and do what we did today. On paper, we are favourites and there’s nobody to worry about. But this is a team that can turn in a Sheffield United home defeat at any moment, with no sign of it coming. Do that in a cup and you’re done, no matter how easy the draw.

Leicester are coping very well with their injuries too and 2nd is no gimme with them and Chelsea right now. Leicester going out the Europa did us no favours. They wouldn’t have been turning that in today if they were travelling back from £#%&!ing Transylvania on Friday morning this week.

Given that sort of result has happened only on that one occasion since the first month of the season, maybe not

(though I do know what you are trying to say there, tbf)

LvG and Mourinho won trophies with WORSE squads than we had today, bloody hell

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Given that sort of result has happened only on that one occasion since the first month of the season, maybe not

(though I do know what you are trying to say there, tbf)

Unfortunately, Europe doesn’t care about our domestic away record, as Liepzig and Istanbul can testify.

We are prone to a complete lapse in terms of performance. In the league, you can get away with it. In the cups, you’re done.

Originally Posted by Tronics

LvG and Mourinho won trophies with WORSE squads than we had today, bloody hell

And if Ole doesn’t win trophies he’ll be sacked like they were. Shall we see if he does?

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Unfortunately, Europe doesn’t care about our domestic away record, as Liepzig and Istanbul can testify.

We are prone to a complete lapse in terms of performance. In the league, you can get away with it. In the cups, you’re done.

Leipzig are a bit better than Sheffield United, tbf.

Yeah the Istanbul game stands out with that latter one as one of *the* most wretched performances this season tho.

Originally Posted by RedNick80

Both can be true.

It’s not so much Ole, but look at the people higher up, and his coaches. He has no chance. Also, What walk of life would someone with so little experience walk into a top job like this?

Yes, he probably does ‘get the club’ but then so do you and I, and I’m not sure we could do the job.

He has too much working against him around him, I.e. our structure, to succeed sadly.

Guardiola at Barcelona,
Arteta at Arsenal,
Zidane at Madrid
Lampard at Chelsea.

Never mind ole has managed in the premier league and other leagues. Not to mention the other more experienced managers, both with contrasting styles of play were dog shite and sacked. Both had Big CVs and played the most turd football.

We need players it’s no secret. Once we sign some the likes of Fred can play 10 games a season with 4 or 5 quality players around him masking his shitness..

Right now they’re playing too many games in which the onus is on them (matic Fred The Scottish Player) . They all need better players around them and push them to squad players.
Big summer, get the right players and we do well, have a usual summer of transfers and we are £#%&!ed .

Ole will get sacked in dec and it will continue and for me there’s no going back. That is what the club will become and the cycle will be never ending.
We have foundations built by ole getting rid of 10 players or so who don’t deserve to be at the club. There’s still loads to be done but he has to be backed.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

And if Ole doesn’t win trophies he’ll be sacked like they were. Shall we see if he does?

if we get top 4 and no trophies Ole will not be sacked, his comments earlier in the week about trophies being an ego thing prove he knows his job is safe as long as he gets the owners champions league football

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Leipzig are a bit better than Sheffield United, tbf.

Yeah the Istanbul game stands out with that latter one as one of *the* most wretched performances this season tho.

The point was that our away record is domestic. Europe has exposed us and could do so again.

As a team overall, I think we’ve got a great chance of winning it, but my biggest concern are these ‘brain fart’ performances that can seemingly come out of nowhere.

Even today was compete contrast in effort to Thursday. We were our arse off on Thursday. We were lazy as £#%&! today.

We seem to have confidence when we do something in a game that provides it. Once Pogba scored the other night, we were good. Then we saw the result in front of us. Today, prospect of a semi final against Southampton... but it wasn’t enough.

Originally Posted by Tronics

if we get top 4 and no trophies Ole will not be sacked, his comments earlier in the week about trophies being an ego thing prove he knows his job is safe as long as he gets the owners champions league football

In the long run. He’ll need trophies. And he’ll be sacked if we don’t make top four. He’s not being treated differently.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

This team and squad has its limits. We know this. We’re not equipped mentally, physically or in terms of trustworthy players to challenge on 3 front on such a crazy schedule. A fully realised team struggles to do that, never mind the work in progress that we are.

Look at the last couple of weeks. We’ve seen the best and worst of us:

Capable of beating city
Dogged against West Ham
Sloppy and failing to see it out against Milan at home
Worked hard and won well away in Milan
Shite and lazy today

And all those games could have gone either way, Strangely barring city. We’re a team of fine margins.

I don’t have an issue with the changes and he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. When we play the same team and players, we’re accusing him of running them into the ground. To compete on this schedule, we have to rotate. The changes aren’t the problem, but how we approach games, our errors and players disappearing is a feature of the whole squad.

We should be able to make changes. We need to. Leicester did, they have their own problems too, but their players deputising stepped up.

I’m not going to start getting into individuals because it’s a squad issue and this performance could have come from any combination of our squad.

This is just where we are now.

As much as we have plenty to play for, football desperately needs this season to be over, give these players some rest and we need to get to work on improving our squad and how set up for games.

all true (except city could easily have scored three goals), but.... knowing our limitations, why would anyone play fred and matic in midfield against leicester and why do our defenders, with space in front of them, keep playing short balls to midfielders under pressure and nowhere to go but back to the same £#%&!ing defender? this is not down to individual errors, it is what makes individual errors matter.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

The point was that our away record is domestic. Europe has exposed us and could do so again.

As a team overall, I think we’ve got a great chance of winning it, but my biggest concern are these ‘brain fart’ performances that can seemingly come out of nowhere.

Even today was compete contrast in effort to Thursday. We were our arse off on Thursday. We were lazy as f*** today.

We seem to have confidence when we do something in a game that provides it. Once Pogba scored the other night, we were good. Then we saw the result in front of us. Today, prospect of a semi final against Southampton... but it wasn’t enough.



In the long run. He’ll need trophies. And he’ll be sacked if we don’t make top four. He’s not being treated differently.

of course he is

the same people in the who were killing LvG and Mourinho (rightly) are now making all the excuses for Ole and his coaching staff

the conversations around Ole are way too emotional for a fan base like ours, i expect this weird love-in with coaches from Liverpool fans not us

Originally Posted by Tronics

of course he is

the same people in the who were killing LvG and Mourinho (rightly) are now making all the excuses for Ole and his coaching staff

the conversations around Ole are way too emotional for a fan base like ours, i expect this weird love-in with coaches from Liverpool fans not us

What’s Roger Daltrey been saying about Ole?

Originally Posted by Tronics

if we get top 4 and no trophies Ole will not be sacked, his comments earlier in the week about trophies being an ego thing prove he knows his job is safe as long as he gets the owners champions league football

He*S the norway poch if you ask me.

Actually most people backed both LvG and Mourinho until their positions became obviously untenable. OGS isn't currently in that position on any reasonable metric, that's the point.

(15 points better in the league than this stage last year, is it? I think most would call that progress, though a good finish to the campaign is still essential)

Originally Posted by Tronics

of course he is

the same people in the who were killing LvG and Mourinho (rightly) are now making all the excuses for Ole and his coaching staff

the conversations around Ole are way too emotional for a fan base like ours, i expect this weird love-in with coaches from Liverpool fans not us

By the board, mate. Not the fans.

Short-term, get top four. Neither LVG or Jose were sacked for doing that and neither will Ole. Both were sacked for failing to do so. And so will Ole if he fails.

Long-term, we need to be consistently challenging for the title and winning trophies.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Actually most people backed both LvG and Mourinho until their positions became obviously untenable. OGS isn't currently in that position on any reasonable metric, that's the point.

(15 points better in the league than this stage last year, is it? I think most would call that progress, though a good finish to the campaign is still essential)

Yep.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Actually most people backed both LvG and Mourinho until their positions became obviously untenable. OGS isn't currently in that position on any reasonable metric, that's the point.

(15 points better in the league than this stage last year, is it? I think most would call that progress, though a good finish to the campaign is still essential)

Points gained from season to season are not always a great metric tbf. Too many variables - especially with bigger squads having such an advantage this season in comparison to others. We've increased our points total in the past and failed to defend the title

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

By the board, mate. Not the fans.

Short-term, get top four. Neither LVG or Jose were sacked for doing that and neither will Ole. Both were sacked for failing to do so. And so will Ole if he fails.

Long-term, we need to be consistently challenging for the title and winning trophies.

For me, he has to get us playing far better football. If the football was semi decent, then I doubt he'd be copping half as much flak as he is doing.

We continually look like a disjointed mess, who lack any style of play bar a counter attack. We really are a poor side to watch, a lot of the time. He's been in the job 2.5 years now, and I'm not really seeing a great deal of progress on any of these issues. He has made us a threat on the counter, but that should be a weapon in our arsenal, not the entirety of the arsenal itself.

The responsibility for this debacle rests squarely on the shoulders of the Manager.

This is an absolute insult to United fans leaving our best players out against a very good Leicester side in the QF of the FA Cup when our next game isnt until 4 April !!!

And you can keep that poxy Europa league dogshit I have absolutely NFI in that second grade crock of shit

£#%&!ing clueless

Originally Posted by Pancho77

The responsibility for this debacle rests squarely on the shoulders of the Manager.

This is an absolute insult to United fans leaving our best players out against a very good Leicester side in the QF of the FA Cup when our next game isnt until 4 April !!!

And you can keep that poxy Europa league dogshit I have absolutely NFI in that second grade crock of shit

£#%&!ing clueless

#@&%!.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMsfSgtCYBb/?igshid=f28lyb6plvig

Originally Posted by dunk

b*****d.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMsfSgtC...d=f28lyb6plvig

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Originally Posted by Pancho77

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‘Insult’ to rest players that are absolutely £#%&!ed from the relentless schedule