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Old 08-01-2018, 09:37 AM
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Question Brian Clough?

Were his achievements greater than Fergies? Clough won two consecutive European Cups (in 1979 and 1980) with what would be regarded as an unfashionable club?


Also, does Fred think that in Cloughs later years at Forest, the club were too loyal to a manager who's methods no longer worked and which saw them relegated?

Did the game move on whilst Clough didn't move with it, where-as Fergie, it could be argued knew when to get out?
 
Old 08-01-2018, 09:38 AM
jem
 
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Originally Posted by sub three hours
Were his achievements greater than Fergies? Clough won two consecutive European Cups (in 1979 and 1980) with what would be regarded as an unfashionable club?


Also, does Fred think that in Cloughs later years at Forest, the club were too loyal to a manager who's methods no longer worked and which saw them relegated?

Did the game move on whilst Clough didn't move with it. Where-as Fergie, it could be argued knew when to get out?
is this secretly about mourinho?
 
Old 08-01-2018, 09:40 AM
no fun
 
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Clough was old school

Would not have let kids have a shit in class time, nqat
 
Old 08-01-2018, 09:42 AM
solidstool
 
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European cup was different then with one team from each country. They won it by beating the likes of Malmo, Grasshopper, AEK Athens. That would be a piss easy Europa league group now.
The achievement was winning the league. For the English clubs who were strong at the time, following it up with a European cup was not as difficult.
 
Old 08-01-2018, 09:45 AM
92ToBury
 
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Originally Posted by sub three hours
Were his achievements greater than Fergies? Clough won two consecutive European Cups (in 1979 and 1980) with what would be regarded as an unfashionable club?


Also, does Fred think that in Cloughs later years at Forest, the club were too loyal to a manager who's methods no longer worked and which saw them relegated?

Did the game move on whilst Clough didn't move with it, where-as Fergie, it could be argued knew when to get out?
I think you've answered it yourself. Fergie was achieving right up to the end rather than United loyally rewarding him for earlier work, like Wenger has been.

Fergie >>>>> Clough >> Wenger.
 
Old 08-01-2018, 09:46 AM
Lazlo Panaflex
 
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read the title & was worried something had happened to him.
 
Old 08-01-2018, 09:50 AM
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:54 AM
kungfu cantona
 
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Originally Posted by sub three hours
Were his achievements greater than Fergies? Clough won two consecutive European Cups (in 1979 and 1980) with what would be regarded as an unfashionable club?


Also, does Fred think that in Cloughs later years at Forest, the club were too loyal to a manager who's methods no longer worked and which saw them relegated?

Did the game move on whilst Clough didn't move with it, where-as Fergie, it could be argued knew when to get out?
New to football pol?
 
Old 08-01-2018, 10:09 AM
Spock
 
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read the title & was worried something had happened to him.
 
Old 08-01-2018, 10:28 AM
Denis Irwell
 
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Brian who?

You’ll be getting senility memes from the usual jcl joy boys who called Fergie a senile pisscan


Strived to be like lvg tbf
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