Manchester United v Crystal Palace- 3pm 30/09/23 - Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

What are you talking about you absolute spanner? Where have I even hinted at changing the manager?

Never said you had, did I.

You know that some on here do that, though.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Never said you had, did I.

.

You absolutely did. Weird guy.

Originally Posted by AK14

https://x.com/utddistrict/status/170...A3dB-7-ot5Dfuw

What the actual £#%&! is going on with handball these days.

Took my six year old for his first ever match and he loved it in the Stretty. Even got a uuuuuuuuunited going. Could see people’s patience wearing thin when he started saying booooring in injury time.

Hell would be watching Varane and Lindelof pass to each other in slow motion for one more second. £#%&! me. Painful.

We need Amrabat in midfield pronto.

Originally Posted by Zorg

What the actual £#%&! is going on with handball these days.

Basically it’s not handball unless it’s against Man Utd in which case it is.

https://x.com/centredevils/status/1708157624196461002?s=46&t=bfVvPcxzFISmV5ixy0aAOQ

Originally Posted by dunk

https://x.com/centredevils/status/17...FISmV5ixy0aAOQ

£#%&! Yeah. Sack ETH as the fall guy while the Glazers are sitting pretty. Rinse and repeat.


It is all about top four. They don't care if we win £#%&! all. As the sussed on here know - the cash grab for minimum effort / investment flows from the top.

So is it beyond the realms of possibility that eth got his summer signings wrong.

He signed his own keeper
He signed a midfielder he has always admired in mount and who was his first choice as we signed him very early.
He signed a young up and coming striker that we’d be Moaning if he went elsewhere and blew up like haaland.

He just wasted 120 in Onana and Mount as they don’t make us £120m better. But being honest is too much to ask here.

He was backed this summer.

Originally Posted by marlo

So is it beyond the realms of possibility that eth got his summer signings wrong.

He signed his own keeper
He signed a midfielder he has always admired in mount and who was his first choice as we signed him very early.
He signed a young up and coming striker that we’d be Moaning if he went elsewhere and blew up like haaland.

He just wasted 120 in Onana and Mount as they don’t make us £120m better. But being honest is too much to ask here.

He was backed this summer.

He wanted Harry Kane and Diogo Costa. Those were his first choice for striker and goalkeeper.

A serious football club would have got at least one of them.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

What are you talking about you absolute spanner? Where have I even hinted at changing the manager?

The manager should be fairly judged on what he delivers. That today was £#%&!ing abysmal. Van gaal dogshit. We never even looked remotely threatening, nevermind scoring. Dull lifeless and about as far away from United’s supposed DNA as you can get.

I hope he takes it on the chin rather than come out with the bullshit he’s worryingly started to do.

This.

This manager seems to be getting a complete pass for everything from some fans.

It’s not good enough, simple really.

Originally Posted by Knockers

Took my six year old for his first ever match and he loved it in the Stretty. Even got a uuuuuuuuunited going. Could see people’s patience wearing thin when he started saying booooring in injury time.

Hell would be watching Varane and Lindelof pass to each other in slow motion for one more second. £#%&! me. Painful.

We need Amrabat in midfield pronto.

100%. It's not a great sign that Casemiro often lools the most likely player to score for us given his profile for the last decade has been of a world class DM who allows the attacking players in front to flourish. But he does have good drive and instincts in the box so maybe Amrabat in the middle will do the hard yards instead. He looks composed on the ball and a good presence.

He replaced departed players
We needed multiple strikers
A new CB
A RB
Another CM

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

This.

This manager seems to be getting a complete pass for everything from some fans.

It’s not good enough, simple really.

It’s a £#%&!ed up situation. People say stupid things and then other people over compensate - take Ric on here. Everyone knows that the glazers are the root cause of our failings. But they’re not the reason for us failing today. We need to judge tenners fairly and being fair means understanding the context that Tenners works in - which is far from ideal. But those 11 players should be pissing on Crystal £#%&!ing palace at home. All day long.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

It’s a £#%&!ed up situation. People say stupid things and then other people over compensate - take Ric on here. Everyone knows that the glazers are the root cause of our failings. But they’re not the reason for us failing today. We need to judge tenners fairly and being fair means understanding the context that Tenners works in - which is far from ideal. But those 11 players should be pissing on Crystal £#%&!ing palace at home. All day long.

Think we've got to be looking at the players tbh. He doesn't tell them to go out there and amble about. Similar issues under the previous 3 managers. The lack of consistent effort, the required fundamental requirement of the game, is a problem that peaks and troughs. They'll put it in for spells, then just ease off and not bother for a while. They get away with it at times, but at others they get absolutely ruined off the back of it. It's infuriating.

He's making mistakes, but I think it's born out of trying to find solutions and make things happen.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

It’s a £#%&!ed up situation. People say stupid things and then other people over compensate - take Ric on here. Everyone knows that the glazers are the root cause of our failings. But they’re not the reason for us failing today. We need to judge tenners fairly and being fair means understanding the context that Tenners works in - which is far from ideal. But those 11 players should be pissing on Crystal £#%&!ing palace at home. All day long.

They’re part of the reason, The mismanagement of the squad is down to them.

Amrabat at LB (only his second game after we’ve been chasing him all summer)
Maguire and The Scottish Player still involved in match day squads after being told they’re unwanted
One striker is a 19 year old kid the other should have been sold two years ago.
Overpaying for an aging midfielder last summer and he’s the only available player to play that position (Amrabat at lb)

Originally Posted by Sparky***

He wanted Harry Kane and Diogo Costa. Those were his first choice for striker and goalkeeper.

A serious football club would have got at least one of them.

He can’t even get a decent performance out of our squad now which is better than at least 15 teams in the league.

You’d be an idiot to give him more money as it stands.

As i keep saying teams that have squads worse that ours are beating us home or away.

Every game even you post “we are £#%&!ing shit” and you think the manager is responsible for that?!??
If ETH was mourinho the blind support for him would not be there. At what point is it time to question him and his decisions.

Playing amrabat at LB ffs.

Originally Posted by AK14

They’re part of the reason, The mismanagement of the squad is down to them.

Amrabat at LB (only his second game after we’ve been chasing him all summer)
Maguire and The Scottish Player still involved in match day squads after being told they’re unwanted
One striker is a 19 year old kid the other should have been sold two years ago.
Overpaying for an aging midfielder last summer and he’s the only available player to play that position (Amrabat at lb)

So eth can’t be judged on what he is getting out the actual squad we have.

What does The Scottish Player and maguire in the match day squad have to do with losing to palace at home? Ffs!
This is getting mad now!

Originally Posted by dunk

Think we've got to be looking at the players tbh. He doesn't tell them to go out there and amble about. Similar issues under the previous 3 managers. The lack of consistent effort, the required fundamental requirement of the game, is a problem that peaks and troughs. They'll put it in for spells, then just ease off and not bother for a while. They get away with it at times, but at others they get absolutely ruined off the back of it. It's infuriating.

He's making mistakes, but I think it's born out of trying to find solutions and make things happen.

Well you can’t laud him for last season’s outcomes and then ignore the current shite.

A lot of these players are his and the ones that aren’t are capable of performing at a much higher level. He has to extract that.

Originally Posted by AK14

They’re part of the reason, The mismanagement of the squad is down to them.

Amrabat at LB (only his second game after we’ve been chasing him all summer)
Maguire and The Scottish Player still involved in match day squads after being told they’re unwanted
One striker is a 19 year old kid the other should have been sold two years ago.
Overpaying for an aging midfielder last summer and he’s the only available player to play that position (Amrabat at lb)

Should the 11 out there today be capable of beating Crystal Palace? Yes or no.

Originally Posted by AK14

They’re part of the reason, The mismanagement of the squad is down to them.

Amrabat at LB (only his second game after we’ve been chasing him all summer)
Maguire and The Scottish Player still involved in match day squads after being told they’re unwanted
One striker is a 19 year old kid the other should have been sold two years ago.
Overpaying for an aging midfielder last summer and he’s the only available player to play that position (Amrabat at lb)

Hang on, if we’re relying on a 19year old striker 18months into his tenure that’s mainly down to him no? He didn’t have to buy him and he wasn’t the only striker available. He didn’t have to buy Casemiro either. Liverpool seem to have found some decent value in midfield without too many problems.

Obviously the glazers are a set of awful @#%&!s but you can’t look at our current squad and how we’re playing and not lay a significant amount of the responsibility for that at Erik’s door.

It’s still early so there’s still time to turn things around but I’m having a hard time convincing myself that Onana and Mount were where we needed to spend this summers cash. That is definitely on the manager.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Well you can’t laud him for last season’s outcomes and then ignore the current shite.

A lot of these players are his and the ones that aren’t are capable of performing at a much higher level. He has to extract that.

Don't disagree with that. Something has been off since pre-season. It's been shite since the Arsenal game in America tbph.

They're not fit or sharp, at all, they're not putting in the required work in anything beyond short spells. It's taking them just about all they've got to keep Burnley at bay, ffs, and they've been dropping like flies all season.

Originally Posted by marlo

He can’t even get a decent performance out of our squad now which is better than at least 15 teams in the league.

You’d be an idiot to give him more money as it stands.

As i keep saying teams that have squads worse that ours are beating us home or away.

Every game even you post “we are £#%&!ing shit” and you think the manager is responsible for that?!??
If ETH was mourinho the blind support for him would not be there. At what point is it time to question him and his decisions.

Playing amrabat at LB ffs.


So eth can’t be judged on what he is getting out the actual squad we have.

What does The Scottish Player and maguire in the match day squad have to do with losing to palace at home? Ffs!
This is getting mad now!

No one is saying that though are they. Everyone is in agreement it’s not good enough at the moment, but most of us can see there are many reasons for our current slump.

If you don’t understand how having unwanted players continually being involved in match squads can have a negative impact on the overall team I don’t know what to say to you.