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Unread 02-08-2022, 09:02 AM
dunk
 
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City have recouped £230m this year apparently.

They pay players fortunes. Utd are f***ing idiots. Itís not Murtough, itís systemic over the past decade and how poorly were run.
City are basically farming footballers via a network of clubs throughout the globe. Itís a huge money laundering exercise. Donít believe any of the figures involved imo.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:07 AM
Seamus
 
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the fact murtough has decided to bring saf and gill back into the fold says it all.

he is more concerned with the optics regarding united.

there is next to nothing that points towards the future about bringing back our manager and ceo from a decade a go.
apparently that was Richard Arnold's decision. I dont think Fergie has been out of the fold, it was him who got Ole in in on the interim and also Darren Fletcher as a director of football.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:18 AM
puressence
 
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A lot of our most recent ridiculous and lucrative contracts were handed out by a certain manager.

anyone else and it would have been mentioned more.

ďRebootĒ

STILL BLAMING OLE FFS WHILST WE ARE STILL STUCK WITH PLAYERS FROM THE ONE BEFORE THAT
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:45 AM
marlo
 
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STILL BLAMING OLE FFS WHILST WE ARE STILL STUCK WITH PLAYERS FROM THE ONE BEFORE THAT
because he gave them new contracts
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:50 AM
dunk
 
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because he gave them new contracts
Woodward dished out the contracts. Itís been discussed many, many times and detailed in recent interviews. The strategy being that the players were worth more on the balance sheet on large contracts. The manager never had a say in it.

That and itís cheaper to keep and pay a player than it is to buy a replacement.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:51 AM
Hyman_Roth
 
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City have recouped £230m this year apparently.

They pay players fortunes. Utd are f***ing idiots. Itís not Murtough, itís systemic over the past decade and how poorly were run.
Itís pretty much down to one man: Woodward.

I maintain that he is the worst thing to ever happen to united. A competent CEO organising a well run club can still operate successfully under the glazer ownership handicap. But this absolute arrogant out of his depth b*****d has set us back decades.

The list of crimes under his watch are too numerous to name but it will take years to re-emerge from what this c*** has done.

Bringing Fergie back in is f***ing mental. Most of this shit happened whilst he still had influence.

Darren Fletcher? Wtaf? f***ing jock favouritism
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:53 AM
Jethro
 
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because he gave them new contracts
For a self proclaimed footballing financial genius you don't seem to grasp who was handing out the gross contracts.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:33 AM
believe
 
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What players are we still stuck with from Joseís time?
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:47 AM
dunk
 
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What players are we still stuck with from Joseís time?
Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:51 AM
utd99
 
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Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot
I thought you liked Dalot. Those three are not the best, but hardly his most egregious crimes. Those are long gone thank god.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:55 AM
dunk
 
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I thought you liked Dalot. Those three are not the best, but hardly his most egregious crimes. Those are long gone thank god.
Dalot is a place holder at best. Heís not actually good at anything, but tries hard.

Iíd argue few of them were actual Mourinho signings tbh. None of them fit the mould of someone heíd actively want the club to pursue.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:59 AM
believe
 
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Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot
Ah the three players who between them will probably rack up more appearances than any other player under the new manager who we all think is the best manager for the job.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:01 AM
Ronny
 
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Dalot is a place holder at best. Heís not actually good at anything, but tries hard.

Iíd argue few of them were actual Mourinho signings tbh. None of them fit the mould of someone heíd actively want the club to pursue.
In a year or twos time Erik might want a team that doesn't contain DDG, Maguire Shaw even dare I say Bruno.
Do you think the club has the expertise/nouse even appetite to make that happen?
If not are we really prepared to back ETH or is he here to make what we've got work better?
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:03 AM
dunk
 
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Ah the three players who between them will probably rack up more appearances than any other player under the new manager who we all think is the best manager for the job.
Bailly and Lindelof? Are you sure?

Fred by default, Dalot too.

They arenít playing because theyíre good, theyíre playing because the clubís recruitment is inept.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:06 AM
Hyman_Roth
 
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Canít believe people are still going on about ole v Mou.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:06 AM
believe
 
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Bailly and Lindelof? Are you sure?

Fred by default, Dalot too.

They arenít playing because theyíre good, theyíre playing because the clubís recruitment is inept.
Didnít see Bailly to be fair Ten Hagís biggest praise so far has been managing to get rid of the deadwood. He obviously doesnít think these are.

Itís just that all the arguments are very contradictory, weíll be saying whoeverís been signed so far werenít his signings in a month or two.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:08 AM
dunk
 
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They arenít until replacements arrive. They canít sell Fred when Beek is his replacement ffs

None of those 4 are or have ever been the required standard, weíre stuck with them occupying first team places and money as weíve not been able to buy adequate upgrades because weíre shit at transfers.

Lindelof should be 4th choice ffs, but Varane is a crock and Maguire a halfwit.

The players that have arrived are clearly ETH picks, he knows and has worked with 2 of them previous and had targeted Malacia for Ajax.

Itís been well documented that weíve scrapped those responsible for identifying and suggesting players to be recruited this year and started from scratch.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 03:22 PM
ErikvanHaaksbergen
 
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Canít believe people are still going on about ole v Mou.
Ole was a placeholder out of his depth but Mourinho was an actual malevolent spirit. Wouldnít be surprised if he cast voodoo on the club before he left.
No question who was worse for United.

The squad actually looked OK in some respects after last season business .. midfield has been gutted further now though & we f***ed Up by going for Ronaldo as CF when we had CL football to offer and some momentum after Ď21
 
Unread 22-09-2022, 05:41 PM
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Unread 22-09-2022, 10:43 PM
Denis Irwell
 
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Didnít see Bailly to be fair Ten Hagís biggest praise so far has been managing to get rid of the deadwood. He obviously doesnít think these are.

Itís just that all the arguments are very contradictory, weíll be saying whoeverís been signed so far werenít his signings in a month or two.
Itís ok, mate. Woodward gone.
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