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Unread 26-08-2023, 04:41 AM
Ethers
 
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Lovely goal tbf, even if he gets a bit lucky with the finish.

Huge leap to say heíd have eclipsed any of the class of 92 ffs

You can have all the talent in the world, but a bad attitude is always going to hold you back from reaching the very top.

His record as a 9 for us was patchy at best, most times we played him there he struggled to make much of an impact. Weíll never know if he would eventually have added enough to his game to be able to handle it.

Could be wrong but seem to remember him being found out somewhat in his last season for us - in his last 5 months at the club he had a paltry return of 2 domestic goals

Certainly felt like defenders had figured out how to deal with him, because he was still very limited in what heíd try on the pitch, and when it didnít come off he didnít have much else in his locker.

There was some suggestion that his disappointing form could have contributed to taking out his frustrations at home. Common pattern for a lot of domestic abusers when thereís problems in the workplace.

Scumbag.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 05:33 AM
jem
 
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ffs. he seems like horrid little shit, but pretending defenders had worked him out is just £#%&!ing nonsense ("oh, he's so predictable... he's going to leave me on my arse again"). he was our form player before he took himself out of contention and on his way to being a world class talent. it's a massive loss. and it's not made a less sad story by pretending he wasn't that good. he was that good.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 05:37 AM
believe
 
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At least ether did say recently he must watch a different game. This is just proof that he was right.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 05:58 AM
browser
 
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Defenders had him worked out Nobody at the club knew what his best foot was, so defenders had no clue where he was going.

Failed by his parents imo. Itís never black and white obviously but if you are capable of what he was recorded doing at 17, then you werenít brought up correctly.

They definitely wonít be the right people to help him through the next phase of whatever career he can salvage either as they will be just as conscious as him that their Golden ticket has gone up in smoke. Will go the same way as Ravel.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 06:08 AM
windy waffles
 
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Originally Posted by Ethers
Lovely goal tbf, even if he gets a bit lucky with the finish.

Huge leap to say heíd have eclipsed any of the class of 92 ffs

You can have all the talent in the world, but a bad attitude is always going to hold you back from reaching the very top.

His record as a 9 for us was patchy at best, most times we played him there he struggled to make much of an impact. Weíll never know if he would eventually have added enough to his game to be able to handle it.

Could be wrong but seem to remember him being found out somewhat in his last season for us - in his last 5 months at the club he had a paltry return of 2 domestic goals

Certainly felt like defenders had figured out how to deal with him, because he was still very limited in what heíd try on the pitch, and when it didnít come off he didnít have much else in his locker.

There was some suggestion that his disappointing form could have contributed to taking out his frustrations at home. Common pattern for a lot of domestic abusers when thereís problems in the workplace.

Scumbag.
"Never liked her anyway.."
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 06:20 AM
Dr Stranger
 
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Letís not re-write history. He was a brilliant talent who had already made a big first team impact. Defences were more aware of him in his second season, but itís a stretch to suggest defenders had him figured out.

Itís a crying £#%&!ing shame is what it is.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 07:15 AM
Ethers
 
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It was his 3rd season.

Just facts - 2 goals in 5 months.

Multiple issues behind the scenes already, mainly centred around training.

Good, maybe very good, but would never have become a great.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 07:18 AM
Dr Stranger
 
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It was his 3rd season.

Just facts - 2 goals in 5 months.

Multiple issues behind the scenes already, mainly centred around training.

Good, maybe very good, but would never have become a great.
A great? Yeah, thatís a big ask and Iím not sure you can confidently predict anyone can become that, but Iíd say heíd have been a fixture for us for years to come. Certainly on a trajectory to be one of the best talents since 1992Ö.but hey-ho. Heís £#%&!ed it.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 07:25 AM
Coracao
 
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He was an incredible talent, anyone suggesting otherwise is talking nonsense.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 07:55 AM
Ethers
 
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If heís truly great, Iím sure heíll show it when he comes back. A few years out didnít stop Ali from becoming the greatest ever.

ďSo at the moment, the only side who are reportedly interested is an unnamed team in AlbaniaĒ

Oh dear.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 08:36 AM
Sparky***
 
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Heís the most talented kid to come through our academy since Scholes imo.

Itís panned out tragically and Manchester United have ended up being the losers this.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 08:42 AM
Coracao
 
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If heís truly great, Iím sure heíll show it when he comes back. A few years out didnít stop Ali from becoming the greatest ever.

ďSo at the moment, the only side who are reportedly interested is an unnamed team in AlbaniaĒ

Oh dear.
Fairly ridiculous comparison
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 08:55 AM
My Name is Heath
 
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If heís truly great, Iím sure heíll show it when he comes back. A few years out didnít stop Ali from becoming the greatest ever.

ďSo at the moment, the only side who are reportedly interested is an unnamed team in AlbaniaĒ

Oh dear.
Jeez pal, pump your brakes with the casual racism.

Why do you hate Albania so much?

#antiracism #bekind #dontbemeantoalbania
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 09:04 AM
Hyman_Roth
 
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Iím more with ethers - he could easily go from looking incredible to being quite ordinary - which isnít unusual at that age - but not necessarily completely obvious that he would transition into becoming a great. From all accounts his off field stuff gangster bullshit was understandably widely disliked and mentally, youíd have to question his ability to carry his potential through.

What he did have though was incredible potential and that potential came at a time when our team was in desperate need of it. He wouldnít be such a loss to our 08 team. But itís pretty devastating given the paucity of our current attacking talent.

Anyway £#%&! him, heís a nasty #@&%!.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 09:31 AM
larry
 
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good to see ethers being exposed for the absolute @#%&! that he is. i think he's the worst poster we've seen in my life time and by some distance. and i won't change that opinion regardless of whether he ever posts again.

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The mental gymnastics on some people here Öwhat he did on that fateful night does not diminish what talent he had.
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anyone that disagrees with that now is either lying to themselves or just doesn't understand football.
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pretending defenders had worked him out is just £#%&!ing nonsense
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At least ether did say recently he must watch a different game. This is just proof that he was right.
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Defenders had him worked out
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Originally Posted by Dr Stranger
Letís not re-write history. He was a brilliant talent who had already made a big first team impact.
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He was an incredible talent, anyone suggesting otherwise is talking nonsense.
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Heís the most talented kid to come through our academy since Scholes imo.
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perhaps you're letting your hatred of the young man cloud your judgement
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 09:36 AM
Ethers
 
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good to see ethers being exposed for the absolute @#%&! that he is. i think he's the worst poster we've seen in my life time and by some distance. and i won't change that opinion regardless of whether he ever posts again.
Apologies for implying your rapist hero isnít on the level of the greatest United players of all time.

I know youíve had a difficult week, but I hope you get to see your boy turning out for Tirana FC in the near future.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 10:14 AM
Patty_b
 
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Iím more with ethers - he could easily go from looking incredible to being quite ordinary - which isnít unusual at that age - but not necessarily completely obvious that he would transition into becoming a great. From all accounts his off field stuff gangster bullshit was understandably widely disliked and mentally, youíd have to question his ability to carry his potential through.

What he did have though was incredible potential and that potential came at a time when our team was in desperate need of it. He wouldnít be such a loss to our 08 team. But itís pretty devastating given the paucity of our current attacking talent.

Anyway £#%&! him, heís a nasty #@&%!.
At the risk of being pigeonholed into some sort of gang, agree for the most part.

He had bags of talent and potential, but he wouldn't be the first football player to have all the potential in the world only to £#%&! it up because he didn't have his head on straight. He'd already had trouble at the club and trouble on international duty before he'd turned 20, and he still went on to £#%&! it up. Even if the horrible things he did never happened it's not a stretch to think that he would have let himself down in other ways down the line.

On the being found out, not sure about that. But iirc (and I'm probably not), his second season in the team was less impactful than his first season in the team. Not that he was shit, but the progression from one season to the next wasn't anything to sing and dance about. Whether that was being found out, him not improving as much as he could've or other factors... £#%&! knows.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 10:28 AM
DublinRedDevil
 
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Would ye all stop £#%&!ing squabbling like a pack of 10 year olds.
First off, this mess, all of it, is Greenwood's to own. You can't blame this on Rachel Riley or the feminist SJWs or anybody else. He hasn't admitted anything, he won't learn from it and he won't be able to move on. He'll be trapped by his own #@&%!edness, blaming everyone and everything except himself and all his sympathisers are just going to compound things further.
He won't ever reach an elite level again I think. He's £#%&!ed and it's his own fault.
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 10:40 AM
My Name is Heath
 
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Apologies for implying your rapist hero isnít on the level of the greatest United players of all time.

I know youíve had a difficult week, but I hope you get to see your boy turning out for Tirana FC in the near future.
My rapist hero is CR7 tbf
 
Unread 26-08-2023, 10:47 AM
Ethers
 
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At the risk of being pigeonholed into some sort of gang, agree for the most part.

He had bags of talent and potential, but he wouldn't be the first football player to have all the potential in the world only to £#%&! it up because he didn't have his head on straight. He'd already had trouble at the club and trouble on international duty before he'd turned 20, and he still went on to £#%&! it up. Even if the horrible things he did never happened it's not a stretch to think that he would have let himself down in other ways down the line.

On the being found out, not sure about that. But iirc (and I'm probably not), his second season in the team was less impactful than his first season in the team. Not that he was shit, but the progression from one season to the next wasn't anything to sing and dance about. Whether that was being found out, him not improving as much as he could've or other factors... £#%&! knows.
Thatís a fairer assessment than mine Iíd say.
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