Ole

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

over the last 12 months MUFC win rate is 27%

the so called biggest club in the world have won approx 3 games in 10

he had a better win rate at Cardiff...

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

over the last 12 months MUFC win rate is 27%

the so called biggest club in the world have won approx 3 games in 10

What's your plan then ?

Who should be appointed manager ?

Which players should be shipped out and which ones signed ?

Originally Posted by Albert Tatlock

What's your plan then ?

Who should be appointed manager ?

Which players should be shipped out and which ones signed ?

The set up needs changing not neccesarily the manager but the coaching and tactics side. We look amateurish at best. Surely we can do better than nail biter Carrick and dopey Mckenna! It's just not working.

A decent coach and motivator would have this bunch of numpties running through brick walls for the shirt.

I heard this morning that since being appointed full time he has won 16 out of 47 games...

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Media saying Norwich is a must win game. If we lose that and get battered against Liverpool could be very interesting to see what happens...

Even with some players out we SHOULD beat Norwich at home FFS.

Losing that fixture was maybe the low point of LvG's time here, if it happens again there aren't really any excuses.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

I heard this morning that since being appointed full time he has won 16 out of 47 games...

Wow! that's pretty grim.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

I heard this morning that since being appointed full time he has won 16 out of 47 games...

That thread “apology from the knights of Mourinho” or what ever it was has proper jinxed Ole. Was going pretty good up until Neo created that awful thread.

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

deluded

Originally Posted by Chester Road

Ole for Molde more like

completely delusional

11th. 11th. 13th.

Three of the four league positions Manchester United FC finished in, in whose first four years at the club?

I'll give you a clue: Ole's mentor, the man who he studied under and the man whose ear he now has.

I'd say it's far more delusional to expect ANY manager to come in and turn the club around, whilst keeping those above him in place, controlling the strings from above.

11th. 11th. 13th.

Three of the four league positions Manchester United FC finished in, in whose first four years at the club?

I'll give you a clue: Ole's mentor, the man who he studied under and the man whose ear he now has.

I'd say it's far more delusional to expect ANY manager to come in and turn the club around, whilst keeping those above him in place, controlling the strings from above.

Barry with the top class reversal.

Originally Posted by BarryX

11th. 11th. 13th.

Three of the four league positions Manchester United FC finished in, in whose first four years at the club?

I'll give you a clue: Ole's mentor, the man who he studied under and the man whose ear he now has.

I'd say it's far more delusional to expect ANY manager to come in and turn the club around, whilst keeping those above him in place, controlling the strings from above.

Jesus christ you are still actually comparing Solskjaer to Fergie....delusional doesn't even cover it

Fergie deserved time because he had proven himself to be one of the best managers in Europe before he came to United, all Solskjaer did was take Cardiff down he should never have got the job and we're paying the price for it now

the only reason he has lasted this long is the fact is he is been cut ridiculous amount of slack for the fact he was a player who the fans loved....as a manager he does not cut it at United and never will

Originally Posted by Chester Road

Jesus christ you are still actually comparing Solskjaer to Fergie....delusional doesn't even cover it

Fergie deserved time because he had proven himself to be one of the best managers in Europe before he came to United, all Solskjaer did was take Cardiff down he should never have got the job and we're paying the price for it now

the only reason he has lasted this long is the fact is he is been cut ridiculous amount of slack for the fact he was a player who the fans loved....as a manager he does not cut it at United and never will

And it was 34 years ago.

An exepction to the rule in a completely different time.

Most managers don't start well, get worse and then get it right. They just get worse.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

And it was 34 years ago.

An exepction to the rule in a completely different time.

Most managers don't start well, get worse and then get it right. They just get worse.

He’s having to drain the swamp. There was no way anyone was going to succeed here without doing that. People don’t want to suffer that process.

Originally Posted by utd99

He’s having to drain the swamp. There was no way anyone was going to succeed here without doing that. People don’t want to suffer that process.

That's working on the assumption that it's a process that will work under this manager.

I'm not arguing that point anyway, I'm just saying most managers are not Fergie. He's a remarkable exception to the 'give him time' rule.

Most managers don't turn it around.

Originally Posted by utd99

He’s having to drain the swamp. There was no way anyone was going to succeed here without doing that. People don’t want to suffer that process.

Tbf people have no faith in that process, at the rate we bin players off and replace them we will have a squad capable of challenging in 4 years if we're lucky.

People are arguing that a manager should be able to do better with what we have available in the meantime, I don't necessarily agree but when you see teams spending less and getting more out of both tactics and results it is extremely frustrating.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Tbf people have no faith in that process, at the rate we bin players off and replace them we will have a squad capable of challenging in 4 years if we're lucky.

People are arguing that a manager should be able to do better with what we have available in the meantime, I don't necessarily agree but when you see teams spending less and getting more out of both tactics and results it is extremely frustrating.

There was always a possibility that we’d be left very thin, but they had to go. We know who needed to go and who still does based either on them not being good enough or not wanting to play here. This is not a situation Solskjaer created, just one he has to deal with, as would Poch, Allegri or anyone else. The quicker we drain the swamp the quicker we can repopulate it with players who are good enough and do want to be here.

Tell you what, no way Pep Guardiola takes a job this difficult.

Originally Posted by utd99

There was always a possibility that we’d be left very thin, but they had to go. We know who needed to go and who still does based either on them not being good enough or not wanting to play here. This is not a situation Solskjaer created, just one he has to deal with, as would Poch, Allegri or anyone else. The quicker we drain the swamp the quicker we can repopulate it with players who are good enough and do want to be here.

Tell you what, no way Pep Guardiola takes a job this difficult.

I agree with that, but you can't just get rid of players, even bad ones, without replacing them. Our midfield options were horrendous last season so by all means start shipping out those players, but it should be inconceivable that we start the season with The Scottish Player, Pogba and Fred as the first choice with Perreira and Matic as backups. Both in terms of quality and depth it's a suicide mission, Ole had a major hand in either agreeing to that which shows awful judgement or in accepting that happening above his head, either way it doesn't bode well.

Originally Posted by Patty_b

Barry with the top class reversal.

What. A. Gif.

Originally Posted by BarryX

11th. 11th. 13th.

Three of the four league positions Manchester United FC finished in, in whose first four years at the club?

I'll give you a clue: Ole's mentor, the man who he studied under and the man whose ear he now has.

I'd say it's far more delusional to expect ANY manager to come in and turn the club around, whilst keeping those above him in place, controlling the strings from above.

Horseshit. We have a poundland manager running the worlds best club.

Originally Posted by Whiteside onside

Horseshit. We have a poundland manager running the worlds best club.

Who knows more about managing United: you (not you, personally, per se, but the doubters on here) or Fergie?

Because, and I'd be prepared to bet all my V-cash on this, plus whatever's left on my overdraft, I am as certain as can be that SAF was consulted on who should take the manager's role.

Originally Posted by BarryX

Who knows more about managing United: you (not you, personally, per se, but the doubters on here) or Fergie?

Because, and I'd be prepared to bet all my V-cash on this, plus whatever's left on my overdraft, I am as certain as can be that SAF was consulted on who should take the manager's role.

Ferguson thought appointing Moyes was a good idea though. Let's not take his view (imagined or otherwise) as gospel on this topic.