Bayern v Porto and the other CL game

Been looking forward to this all day

Then I find out ITV have got the other £#%&!ing tie on, the one that's as good as over. The dumb @#%&!s.

Fancy Bayern to turn it around.

This suspension for yellows rule pisses me off. Porto without both full-backs tonight, who are hugely important for them.

porto to knock bayern on away goals rule

barcelona to smash PSG again.

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

Been looking forward to this all day

Then I find out ITV have got the other £#%&!ing tie on, the one that's as good as over. The dumb @#%&!s.

Not got Sky, pal? Lol.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Fancy Bayern to turn it around.

This suspension for yellows rule pisses me off. Porto without both full-backs tonight, who are hugely important for them.

I think its about right tbf. 1 game suspension for what could be 2 cynical fouls across games...

Originally Posted by angrydimaria

I think its about right tbf. 1 game suspension for what could be 2 cynical fouls across games...

Or two nothing fouls across games.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Fancy Bayern to turn it around.

This suspension for yellows rule pisses me off. Porto without both full-backs tonight, who are hugely important for them.

i dunno tbh, don't see what else you can do to punish repeat offenders than make them miss a game though.

a lot of yellows are down to one of the biggest improvements in the game these days, which is referees booking the professional foul - pulling players back to stop the breakaway in particular. some players abuse it (herrera at united for example) but in the main it works. don't see what else you can do to punish repeat offenders than make them miss a game though.

Bayern's entire season on the line tonight

Go out tonight and their season has been a complete failure despite probably going on to do a league and cup double

Very unhealthy situation for Bayern and obviously German football to be in

Come on Porto

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

i dunno tbh, don't see what else you can do to punish repeat offenders than make them miss a game though.

a lot of yellows are down to one of the biggest improvements in the game these days, which is referees booking the professional foul - pulling players back to stop the breakaway in particular. some players abuse it (herrera at united for example) but in the main it works. don't see what else you can do to punish repeat offenders than make them miss a game though.

Yellow cards are part of the game and unavoidable, especially in positions like full-back and midfield. Making players miss games for collecting a couple across several games is %@#$&!s, imo. It doesn't make the game better; it only deprives us of a better contest.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Bayern's entire season on the line tonight

Go out tonight and their season has been a complete failure despite probably going on to do a league and cup double

Very unhealthy situation for Bayern and obviously German football to be in

yep, the league that was being held up as a beacon for leagues across europe on so many issues is basically a £#%&!ing farce atm

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Or two nothing fouls across games.

but that's the problem with yellow card rule itself and not this suspension rule.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Yellow cards are part of the game and unavoidable, especially in positions like full-back and midfield. Making players miss games for collecting a couple across several games is balls, imo. It doesn't make the game better; it only deprives us of a better contest.

several games? Does it restart after knock out games? In which case porto's fullbacks have collected the 2 cards over 3 games. Suspension is fair enough in this case.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Yellow cards are part of the game and unavoidable, especially in positions like full-back and midfield. Making players miss games for collecting a couple across several games is balls, imo. It doesn't make the game better; it only deprives us of a better contest.

so? how about be much harsher in each game and don't carry them over rather than be lenient and allow this drip drip of yellows over time leading to suspensions. but you'd then be legitimising desperation fouling late in games, surely?

Originally Posted by angrydimaria

but that's the problem with yellow card rule itself and not this suspension rule.



several games? Does it restart after knock out games? In which case porto's fullbacks have collected the 2 cards over 3 games. Suspension is fair enough in this case.

Can be several games in the group phase. But even three yellows in two games. Is that really a huge problem? Yellow card is supposed to be a device within a game for the referee to control the match, that's where it should end, imo. Not unbalancing future matches.

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

so? how about be much harsher in each game and don't carry them over rather than be lenient and allow this drip drip of yellows over time leading to suspensions. but you'd then be legitimising desperation fouling late in games, surely?

It's only a yellow card. I don't see why there needs to be further punishment. Especially as it detracts from the spectacle.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

It's only a yellow card. I don't see why there needs to be further punishment. Especially as it detracts from the spectacle.

players on yellows often don't get sent off despite a second bookable though, so a yellow with no immediate consequences and no cumulative consequences is no punishment at all.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Can be several games in the group phase. But even three yellows in two games. Is that really a huge problem? Yellow card is supposed to be a device within a game for the referee to control the match, that's where it should end, imo. Not unbalancing future matches.

It's only a yellow card. I don't see why there needs to be further punishment. Especially as it detracts from the spectacle.

for me it should. for ex : in the 90th min of a knock out tie, a player commits a cynical foul which only gets him a yellow. That noway affects the player in that match but ideally it should. Only way to avoid it is to penalize the player for the next match.

Ideally the suspension should be retrospective than automatic so that way we could avoid a suspension for 2 nothing yellow cards rather than 2 cynical fouls. But the current system is not that bad when the players up front know the rules and avoid yellow cards.

Originally Posted by Semantic Lisp

players on yellows often don't get sent off despite a second bookable though, so a yellow with no immediate consequences and no cumulative consequences is no punishment at all.

Which is fine, imo. It's a warning within a game. I don't see why it has to go any further than that.

The threat of future suspensions doesn't dissuade players from getting yellows in games. All it does is damage the spectacle.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Which is fine, imo. It's a warning within a game. I don't see why it has to go any further than that.

The threat of future suspensions doesn't dissuade players from getting yellows in games. All it does is damage the spectacle.

yeah it does

they often spend the game scared to make a challenge, or get hooked to stop them getting a yellow - or even held in abeyance by the manager

maybe the sin bin for a yellow is the answer then, but there still needs to be a mechanism to stop desperation foul play in the closing stages as well, otherwise it's a free hit.

players damage the spectacle, not the punishments they get for it

Reckon Bayern will score at least five goals tonight

Originally Posted by Pop

Reckon Bayern will score at least five goals tonight

without ribery and robben?