Just to revisit this one....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ory.realmadrid

What do people think?

I know a cycling journalist buddy of mine is 100% sure that Barcelona have been involved in doping.

Tell him to get his investigative hat on, get some evidence, prove it and print the £#%&!er. We'll get our two pots back

Surprised you weren't the doctor that administered the drugs tbh.

Bore off pub clapper.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fuen...ut-out-of-jail

Fuentes himself has apparently now further encouraged those rumours, as he is said to have told fellow cellmates over the weekend, “If I told them what I know, then goodbye to the World Cup and European championship.”

Tell us then!

Originally Posted by celtbion

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ory.realmadrid

What do people think?

I know a cycling journalist buddy of mine is 100% sure that Barcelona have been involved in doping.

Almost everyone thinks they are. Messi was given growth hormones as he was too small and goodness knows what else. Also Chelsea used to do blood spinning which was illegal in athletics and cycling but not in football at the time.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

Almost everyone thinks they are. Messi was given growth hormones as he was too small and goodness knows what else. Also Chelsea used to do blood spinning which was illegal in athletics and cycling but not in football at the time.

They've deteriorated quite a bit since that stopped and Frank and JT started getting injuries all of a sudden

Mourinho did his apprenticeship at Barca did he not and brought certain practices with him to Chelsea I imagine

19 and 5

barca players never seemed to get injured :likethemurphysimnotbitter:

Originally Posted by fix up look SHARPE

19 and 5

Could you imagine it?

Some forms of blood spinning are legal - for example, Xavi had treatment on a knee injury earlier this season that used enriched blood.

I'd guess the complication posed by the legal version is that it may then be difficult to spot an illegal version of the treatment, or some other kind of autologous blood doping - given that it's always a really difficult thing to prove.

Originally Posted by Dueling Banjos

Could you imagine it?

RAWK and corruption.

Give it up ffs, they £#%&!ing hammered us.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Give it up ffs, they £#%&!ing hammered us.

Or did they?.....

Originally Posted by n48

Or did they?.....

Originally Posted by n48

Or did they?.....

Well, Messi is a good example.

Giving growth hormones to a kid might not be illegal but is it ethical?

Could you imagine Ferguson's club dosing up youngsters with growth hormones because they were a bit titchy and then stopping it once they became pros?

Originally Posted by wee man

RAWK and corruption.

ferie as a scooby doo villain pumping doped up horse blood into the spanish

Originally Posted by celtbion

Well, Messi is a good example.

Giving growth hormones to a kid might not be illegal but is it ethical?

Could you imagine Ferguson's club dosing up youngsters with growth hormones because they were a bit titchy and then stopping it once they became pros?

Doesn't really matter does it? It's not like he's done a Captain America and is now a 6ft 4 strapping juggernaut.

Somebody should have stopped pumping growth hormones into obertan's heid when he was young.

This guy needs to be silenced.

I want to believe that Carles Puyol can be fitter now than he was in his 20s.

It's important for a guy my age.

guardiola's nandrolone affair at brescia (at the same time stam was caught for the same thing) was dead dodgy - two positive samples and a ban... then overturned as they suddenly accepted his argument that it was accidental, in a diet supplement etc. very dubious as nandrolone use was rife in italian football at the time.

interestingly enough, the team doctor at the time at brescia - ricard pruna - has been head of medical matters at barcelona for several years now. just coincidence, naturally.