No excuses, but.........

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Noon kicks offs are bad enough in themselves.

But expecting us to turn up in one and play our best after a draining derby on Thursday night is little short of ridiculous.

Moronic, even obscene, scheduling by the authorities.

As I said in the main match thread, would any other major European league mess their big clubs around like this?

You do realise of course that reeling off a list of excuses preceded by a "no excuses, but.." doesn't negate them, right? We also had a million excuses at the ready when we were actually decent and actually winning things; we just didn't need them.

Yes, we aren't as good now as when we were winning everything. Anything else to tell us?

Originally Posted by utd99

You do realise of course that reeling off a list of excuses preceded by a "no excuses, but.." doesn't negate them, right? We also had a million excuses at the ready when we were actually decent and actually winning things; we just didn't need them.

talking of when we used to win stuff, i heard and read loads of people saying we'd never have played like we did at city when we used to win stuff.

how fantastic the 07/08 team was compared to this, they say.

barcelona 0 manchester united 0

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Yes, we aren't as good now as when we were winning everything. Anything else to tell us?

Only that excuses tend not to assist in regaining that status, only prolonging the current one.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

talking of when we used to win stuff, i heard and read loads of people saying we'd never have played like we did at city when we used to win stuff.

how fantastic the 07/08 team was compared to this, they say.

barcelona 0 manchester united 0

Fergie got called out for it, plus that was against peak Barca. not a middling Manchester City.

Fergie got "called out" for trying it a few years later against city and failing.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

talking of when we used to win stuff, i heard and read loads of people saying we'd never have played like we did at city when we used to win stuff.

how fantastic the 07/08 team was compared to this, they say.

barcelona 0 manchester united 0

Was that the game in which we missed one penalty, should've had another and offered a threat on the break, throughout, and should probably have won?

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

talking of when we used to win stuff, i heard and read loads of people saying we'd never have played like we did at city when we used to win stuff.

how fantastic the 07/08 team was compared to this, they say.

barcelona 0 manchester united 0

It's a fair point, but it's never quite clear where pragmatism ends and fear begins. When we got our first corner at the Etihad and had three players in the box, the first thing I thought was 'uh oh'..

Originally Posted by ScholesGingerSheen

Fergie got called out for it, plus that was against peak Barca. not a middling Manchester City.

yes, by £#%&!ing idiots.

Originally Posted by believe

When you're challenging for trophies you play lots of games, simple. We've revelled in it previously.

Are you suggesting Fergie never complained publicly about it?

Originally Posted by utd99

You do realise of course that reeling off a list of excuses preceded by a "no excuses, but.." doesn't negate them, right? We also had a million excuses at the ready when we were actually decent and actually winning things; we just didn't need them.

Yes, a winning mentality can overcome such obstacles. As can squad rotation. Doesn't mean there isn't a cost involved. How many careers were £#%&!ed after we won the treble in 99? How many players are suffering injuries now as a result?

A manager can complain and make points publicly whilst telling the players to stop whinging and overcome the issue. Which I'm sure was what Fergie used to do.

The idea that Freggle never complained about our fixture list

tbf riccers just pointed out the lunacy of having a midday kick-off after playing on a Thursday night. And he's spot on.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Yes, a winning mentality can overcome such obstacles. As can squad rotation. Doesn't mean there isn't a cost involved. How many careers were £#%&!ed after we won the treble in 99? How many players are suffering injuries now as a result?

Who cares?

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so playing today at 12 made Rooney miss an open goal and upend an opponent 20 yards from goal............ Rooney scores from that 2nd half chance and does not touch the Swansea player and we win today...

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

so playing today at 12 made Rooney miss an open goal and upend an opponent 20 yards from goal............ Rooney scores from that 2nd half chance and does not touch the Swansea player and we win today...

Open goal....

Tiredness is no excuse for any of them.....
The have the best recovery methods available to them in the country.

Paramedics get tired
Nurses get tired
Soldiers get tired...

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Open goal....

Tiredness is no excuse for any of them.....
The have the best recovery methods available to them in the country.

Paramedics get tired
Nurses get tired
Soldiers get tired...

Pretty sure it's a little bit different.

They're paid 100 grand a week and they get tired?!!!

Number of belms that I've heard this from...

Originally Posted by believe

When you're challenging for trophies you play lots of games, simple. We've revelled in it previously.

We've never revelled in 12 o'clock kick offs, especially after European games that historically have nearly always been on a Wednesday.

It's a mitigating factor, as was the early injury but we should still be seeing off Swansea.

why did we play on thursday as opposed to wednesday btw?