Bury FC

Sympathy for Bury. But all this "heart of the community" stuff is sentimental %@#$&!s. That era is over.

Bolton though can £#%&! off. 1958. Never forget. Took a few years but needless to say, we had the last laugh.

Darren Gough made a good point yesterday.

If the big clubs did help out and keep them in the league, other smaller clubs would gamble, pay wages they can't afford to seek quicker promotions and if they fell onto a familiar situation, would just think 'Thats ok, the Premier League clubs will bail us out'...

That can't happen and this will just be a lesson to other clubs. As 'sad' as it is...

Canaries in the mine.

The top is in for football. Mind you I have been saying that for at least 10 years so feel free to ignore.

Originally Posted by shenwen

Sympathy for Bury. But all this "heart of the community" stuff is sentimental %@#$&!s. That era is over.

Bolton though can £#%&! off. 1958. Never forget. Took a few years but needless to say, we had the last laugh.

£#%&! both clubs. If it was United there’d be a national holiday

£#%&! them both

Originally Posted by MartialLaw

https://streamable.com/p9mdu

Sad to see Ben Stokes like that after his Ashes triumph

£#%&! Bolton 👍🏻

Originally Posted by waynes ear's

£#%&! both clubs. If it was United there’d be a national holiday

£#%&! them both

Valid point.

Originally Posted by Knockers

I can remember at that meeting at the Apollo in 2005. Everybody in despair. The chubby lad from AFC Wimbledon got on stage and told their tale. His point, L story S, was they’d all had the time of their lives setting up the new club and others had nothing to lose but their chains etc.

How much actual fun have these trainspotters with moustaches had at Bolton and Bury matches in the last few years? What exactly is it they’re terrified of losing? Drop down a few divisions and stop crying ffs.

What a ridiculously fatuous post which completely misses the point

It is big football clubs fault in a way I suppose. With bury a mere 30 minute tram ride from the big neighbours in the glamorous premier league who can blame the locals for not giving a shit about the tripe Bury FC were serving up on their doorstep?

Lower league football is falling further and further away from the quality and hype of premier football and it will continue to suffer for it.

It is a shame, and ultimately football will suffer but it’s the way of the modern world. The days when the local team was the obviously place to get your football fix are long gone. Modern transport, ubiquitous premier league football on TV and for free on the internet, and it’s obvious why Clogger FC can’t compete. The premier league is global, the bury times reporting the signing of Geoff Thwaites from oswaldtwistle town just doesn’t draw in the fans.

Originally Posted by Hands of Scone

It is big football clubs fault in a way I suppose. With bury a mere 30 minute tram ride from the big neighbours in the glamorous premier league who can blame the locals for not giving a shit about the tripe Bury FC were serving up on their doorstep?

Lower league football is falling further and further away from the quality and hype of premier football and it will continue to suffer for it.

Depends on the shit lower league club though. Chorley's attendances have been some of best in their respective leagues (and beyond) for years now, home and away. It was helped by things like the Glazer take over, people getting pissed off with Premier League football, and the creation of a supporters trust when it looked like the club was in financial trouble whom regularly went out and advertised the games, and raised money for the club.

The supporters trust worked with the club to put on offers for games and free tickets for school children. The attendances increased and have gone up ever since, as has Chorley's position in the football league.

A lot of the fans, including my old man and one of his good friends, now regularly watch Chorley instead of United and Liverpool (their respective teams) as they don't feel the same connection with the big teams anymore, and prefer to watch Chorley instead. The football isn't beautiful, but it isn't awful, and the atmosphere is cracking.

Bury's owner is a massive @#%&!, and no doubt he's the main reason they've been kicked out of the Football league, but where the £#%&! were the fans? All we've heard is bitching and blaming, at what point were they going to realise that they can't just rely on dodgy owner after dodgy owner and get of their arses and do something about it, other than chaining themselves to a £#%&!ing drainpipe. They could have tried to do something about it at anytime, but instead they couldn't be arsed and left it to a failed business man who couldn't give two shits about football or the football club.

£#%&! Bolton. Them £#%&!ing off should do wonders for Chorley's already high attendances

Originally Posted by Hands of Scone

It is big football clubs fault in a way I suppose. With bury a mere 30 minute tram ride from the big neighbours in the glamorous premier league who can blame the locals for not giving a shit about the tripe Bury FC were serving up on their doorstep?

Lower league football is falling further and further away from the quality and hype of premier football and it will continue to suffer for it.

It is a shame, and ultimately football will suffer but it’s the way of the modern world. The days when the local team was the obviously place to get your football fix are long gone. Modern transport, ubiquitous premier league football on TV and for free on the internet, and it’s obvious why Clogger FC can’t compete. The premier league is global, the bury times reporting the signing of Geoff Thwaites from oswaldtwistle town just doesn’t draw in the fans.

It’s not a modern thing with Bury though. United and to a lesser extent City are the teams that the towns football fans support and it’s been that case well before I was born. bury town centre is 7 or 8 miles from Manchester City centre - most people I know socialise in Manchester and consider themselves greater Mancunian. What’s the point of watching shit football in a dull depressing atmosphere when you had old Trafford on your door step?

I don’t know any bury fans - all my mates have been st holders in the past or still currently at united and city.

Sadly I think that could be on the change now as united and city become tepid corporate sterile expensive places - a lot of young bury kids now go to bury because it’s cheap easy and they can have a decent dick around.

Unfortunately no more.

Originally Posted by Hands of Scone

It is big football clubs fault in a way I suppose. With bury a mere 30 minute tram ride from the big neighbours in the glamorous premier league who can blame the locals for not giving a shit about the tripe Bury FC were serving up on their doorstep?

Lower league football is falling further and further away from the quality and hype of premier football and it will continue to suffer for it.

It is a shame, and ultimately football will suffer but it’s the way of the modern world. The days when the local team was the obviously place to get your football fix are long gone. Modern transport, ubiquitous premier league football on TV and for free on the internet, and it’s obvious why Clogger FC can’t compete. The premier league is global, the bury times reporting the signing of Geoff Thwaites from oswaldtwistle town just doesn’t draw in the fans.

Can't remember who said it on this thread but there are far too many professional clubs in this country and they are spot on. 92 in the Premier League/EFL and I am sure there a couple in the National League too. It's not sustainable in this day and age.

I didn't know they'd signed Geoff Thwaites from Oswaldtwistle Town. Bet he's gutted

Originally Posted by elhombre

What a ridiculously fatuous post which completely misses the point

Don’t mean to be @#%&!y but I don’t think it does. Is the point of football at that level not just going with your mates for a pint and watching the team for a laugh? They’re Bury, not Galatasaray. They could easily replicate what they have now in a few years, just like lots of other clubs have.

i still can't believe how passively bury and bolton fans have taken all this.

blackpool fans got games abandoned/interrupted, boycotted anything to do with the club, stormed the directors box, visited the chairman's house/chairman's son's work place en masse etc.

what have these £#%&!ers done apart from talking in a gorpy accent outside the ground to ssn reporters?

steve dale must be pissing himself laughing this morning when he should be shitting himself with worry.

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

i still can't believe how passively bury and bolton fans have taken all this.

blackpool fans got games abandoned/interrupted, boycotted anything to do with the club, stormed the directors box, visited the chairman's house/chairman's son's work place en masse etc.

what have these £#%&!ers done apart from talking in a gorpy accent outside the ground to ssn reporters?

steve dale must be pissing himself laughing this morning when he should be shitting himself with worry.

To be fair not much 3 people can do is there.

They should have used the power of Ecky Thump

https://twitter.com/awaydays_/status/660512161085693953?s=21

Originally Posted by Hands of Scone

It is big football clubs fault in a way I suppose. With bury a mere 30 minute tram ride from the big neighbours in the glamorous premier league who can blame the locals for not giving a shit about the tripe Bury FC were serving up on their doorstep?

Lower league football is falling further and further away from the quality and hype of premier football and it will continue to suffer for it.

It is a shame, and ultimately football will suffer but it’s the way of the modern world. The days when the local team was the obviously place to get your football fix are long gone. Modern transport, ubiquitous premier league football on TV and for free on the internet, and it’s obvious why Clogger FC can’t compete. The premier league is global, the bury times reporting the signing of Geoff Thwaites from oswaldtwistle town just doesn’t draw in the fans.

If those were the genuine causes, surely Bury would have declined far more gradually, rather than being kicked out of the football league while in the third tier in August? While these may be issues and people can talk about there being too many professional clubs, it does seem the most likely reason this is happening now is simply inept/indifferent ownership facilitated by an apathetic governing body.

There's so much to be proud about in English football culture. The attendance without severe crowd problems spreading down a vast pyramid; the sense of sportsmanship and fair play. But it does seem, as others have said, that fans have become accepting of being seen and treated as consumers who should feel they're being done a favour. Even inside the stadium fans are treated as customers, rather than vital participants in the sport. I often wonder if our takeover could have happened at any major club in the world outside England.

Maybe truly realising their power as fans is the key, although government support would help and I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

https://twitter.com/thellen72/status/1166585861301002240?s=20