De Gea needs binning

Originally Posted by Sparky***

He needs looking at but yeah, lets be real, there's far more pressing issues in the team. Firstly the lack of any sort of midfield, then theres the fact that nobody can score goals apart from 37 year old Ronaldo.

Far more important than replacing de gea right now.

exactly

we cant score goals or stop the opposition from walking through our midfield but yeah lets change the keeper.

changing the keeper would be finishing touches on a complete team.

before that. we need striking options, competent midfielders, a rb and then a few extra options in those positions mentioned and then yeah maybe look into getting a new keeper.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Does Shaw shit out of clearing it? I’m sure he did but that clip isn’t showing it.

Shaw gets attracted to the middle to cover someone else ( not sure who ). Either way, Gross is completely unmarked and Maguire and Martinez are doing nothing.

De Gea lacks any kind of presence. So easy to beat. If he’d have faced the Rashford chance, he’d have stood with his knees together and he arms down by his side. He wouldn’t have made the error Sanchez did for our goal though. Because he’d have stayed on his line.

He just isn’t a top goalkeeper. It’s why he doesn’t feature for Spain or even get close. He doesn’t do anything well other than having quick reactions for instinctive saves. And those saves don’t mask how many problems his passiveness creates.

We saw glimpses of what a more proactive keeper can bring when Henderson first came into the team. Only problem is he was shit for different reasons.

We need other problems solved first, but we definitely need a new keeper.

No it £#%&!ing wouldn’t. It’s a foundation stone. The defence are constantly on tenter hooks because he won’t take control of anything and there’s miles of space in behind them. The midfield and team in general are under pressure because his distribution is appalling and has us constantly on the back foot.

Just getting rid of him and getting a goalkeeper with presence and an ability to kick it without slicing it to the nearest attacker or out of play would improve us no end.

De Gea is like the kid in Matilda forced to eat chocolate cake. Used to have potential (used to be great ) then we forced so much money down his gob with that outrageous 350k p/w contract we basically killed his motivation to play the game. Bet he hates chocolate cake now too. Properly existential crisis

Has been the case for a couple of years, this isn't anything new.

Just look at his cowardly goalkeeping two years ago against Leipzig and Everton where he appeared to be scared to death at the prospect of making physical contact with an opposition player, and just let them score instead.

Last season he was getting praised even after embarrassing mistakes against City and Atalanta. He makes lots of technical errors these days, they're only getting more regular.

And then you have his distribution skills, or lack thereof, which will only become more apparent under ten Hag. Even today fans were audibly annoyed by his kicking.

Originally Posted by dunk

balls I’m afraid. De Gea is shit and has been for 4 long years. He causes half the problems.

You're right.
Dropping De Gea would suddenly elevate Maguire above pub level, stop virtually every opposition midfield running through ours and liberate Rashford and Co into the top level strikers they really are.

Clearly the best goalkeeper we have is the biggest issue of concern.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Shaw gets attracted to the middle to cover someone else ( not sure who ). Either way, Gross is completely unmarked and Maguire and Martinez are doing nothing.

De Gea lacks any kind of presence. So easy to beat. If he’d have faced the Rashford chance, he’d have stood with his knees together and he arms down by his side. He wouldn’t have made the error Sanchez did for our goal though. Because he’d have stayed on his line.

He just isn’t a top goalkeeper. It’s why he doesn’t feature for Spain or even get close. He doesn’t do anything well other than having quick reactions for instinctive saves. And those saves don’t mask how many problems his passiveness creates.

We saw glimpses of what a more proactive keeper can bring when Henderson first came into the team. Only problem is he was shit for different reasons.

We need other problems solved first, but we definitely need a new keeper.

This.

Originally Posted by Hank Scorpio

You're right.
Dropping De Gea would suddenly elevate Maguire above pub level, stop virtually every opposition midfield running through ours and liberate Rashford and Co into the top level strikers they really are.

Clearly the best goalkeeper we have is the biggest issue of concern.

The fact he is the ‘best’ goalkeeper we have is a massive £#%&!ing concern tbh. A proper keeper would definitely elevate Maguire, because he wouldn’t be shitting himself about the huge space behind him and having to deal with every ball into the box because his keeper won’t.

Also, it’s far £#%&!ing easier to find a goalkeeper at this moment in time than any other position.

Originally Posted by dunk

The fact he is the ‘best’ goalkeeper we have is a massive £#%&!ing concern tbh. A proper keeper would definitely elevate Maguire, because he wouldn’t be shitting himself about the huge space behind him and having to deal with every ball into the box because his keeper won’t.

Also, it’s far £#%&!ing easier to find a goalkeeper at this moment in time than any other position.

Who you going for pal… genuine question?

Milan lost Donnarumma on a free last summer(?) but then went out and signed the French lad. There has to be better options available.

We need to upgrade positions when better players come available, why wait and potentially miss out on players just because we prioritise other positions? Doesn’t make sense and we’d never finish rebuilding the team with that strategy.

I like the Brighton keeper, had a ropey 20 today nqat, still miles better than we’ve got.

I watch PSG v Nantes highlights and the Nantes keeper is massive, young, captain, decent with his feet and wants to command his area. Looks a £#%&!ing belter tbh. Lafont is his name. He won’t be there too much longer I wouldn’t have thought.

There’s probably a 100 keepers out there that would be a better fit tbh.

Originally Posted by dunk

I like the Brighton keeper, had a ropey 20 today nqat, still miles better than we’ve got.

I watch PSG v Nantes highlights and the Nantes keeper is massive, young, captain, decent with his feet and wants to command his area. Looks a £#%&!ing belter tbh. Lafont is his name. He won’t be there too much longer I wouldn’t have thought.

There’s probably a 100 keepers out there that would be a better fit tbh.

Signed him on fifa from Fiorentina a few years back

Yeah I like the Brighton lad too, looked shit at times today though so I’m not so sure now.

Originally Posted by AK14

We need to upgrade positions when better players come available, why wait and potentially miss out on players just because we prioritise other positions? Doesn’t make sense and we’d never finish rebuilding the team with that strategy.

This is the important thing.

Liverpool bought Diaz with a Mane, Firmino, Salah and Jota forward line, then went and bought Nunez. They may have known Mane was going, but they didn’t £#%&! about waiting for him to go as we’re doing with, say, AWB. The also bought Carvalho despite having Jones and the other young kid whose name escapes me. We look at our midfield and opt not to buy one because The Scottish Player might not play ffs.

The club is £#%&!ed.

De Gea was an easy one. You do what City or Liverpool would have done. Sell him for 20/30 mil 18 months before the contract ended to Real or Atletico and reinvest to the future. Exactly what Gill/Ferguson would have done (sans Glazers holding the purse strings). Instead we bought at the top, ploughing funds into a declining asset. What do you do with a new keeper now? Let him knows he’s on c 250 k less than the guy on the bench? He’s the equivalent of a mortgage deep under water. You either seriously cut losses and literally pay someone else to take the asset on or persevere.

Originally Posted by AK14

Signed him on fifa from Fiorentina a few years back

Yeah I like the Brighton lad too, looked shit at times today though so I’m not so sure now.

Not exactly commanding of his area which is apparently such a cornerstone of the complaints against Dave.

Originally Posted by andyroo

Not exactly commanding of his area which is apparently such a cornerstone of the complaints against Dave.

He is normally tbf. Had a wobbly 20 minutes today nqat.

Originally Posted by marlo

exactly

we cant score goals or stop the opposition from walking through our midfield but yeah lets change the keeper.

It’s not unheard of for keeper to marshall their defence to help stop teams walking through them, in fact keeper that DDG replaced was so good at it that the defence was able to play ten yards further forward and he was able to mitigate his declining ability as a shot stopper by preventing them in the first place.

De Gea is clearly not to blame for the issues in midfield and beyond but he transmits confusion and fear at just about every turn. In a strong field both he and Maguire stood out for just how ponderous and clueless in possession they were, waiting to receive the ball before they even considered what to do with it, allowing the opposition to shut down any options before either player was able to decide which option to go with. Neither of them stand a chance of making it in a team that wants to move the ball quickly so best to £#%&! them off now, DDG’s shot stopping doesn’t compensate for every other flaw he has.

Should have sold Henderson for 10 mill.

Bought Pope for 7 mill.

Glazer @#%&!s get a profit and we get a proper keeper.

Would be starting Heaton against Brentford

AK shoe in for sage of the year?

Should've been Joe Hart'd as soon as Erik got here.

Cost us both goals ...

He's awful....