Ole has to be sacked TONIGHT

Originally Posted by saffers

The worst United post fergie.

nope. that would be mourinho.

Originally Posted by saffers

https://www.utdforum.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=32

Ole has done next to nothing. Done more damage than good. You are seeing it now unfold in front of your eyes. The worst United post fergie.

Always thought you were a bit better than this mate. Feels like you're getting a bit giddy. Ole brought back a lot of self belief about the Club and that we could play proper football and move away from the grim darks days of Smalling, Young, Lukkau, Fellaini et al It was horrendous watching the way we played and the depths we plunged to.

Ole brought a lot of good qualities - to think we would be seeing Cavani and Ronaldo and now Varane. His time's probably pretty much up but don't rewrite history.

Originally Posted by redhegemony

Always thought you were a bit better than this mate. Feels like you're getting a bit giddy. Ole brought back a lot of self belief about the Club and that we could play proper football and move away from the grim darks days of Smalling, Young, Lukkau, Fellaini et al It was horrendous watching the way we played and the depths we plunged to.

Ole brought a lot of good qualities - to think we would be seeing Cavani and Ronaldo and now Varane. His time's probably pretty much up but don't rewrite history.

New formations as well. Don't think i've ever seen a 7 man defence in a derby before.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

New formations as well. Don't think i've ever seen a 7 man defence in a derby before.

Mourinho played 7 plenty of times and that 7 included Young, Jones, Smalling Fellaini.

Originally Posted by redhegemony

Mourinho played 7 plenty of times and that 7 included Young, Jones, Smalling Fellaini.

So you're saying Ole is now playing like Mourinho? How does that fit in with

Ole brought back a lot of self belief about the Club and that we could play proper football and move away from the grim darks days of Smalling, Young, Lukkau, Fellaini et al It was horrendous watching the way we played and the depths we plunged to.

Is it horrendous watching the way we play and the depths we are plunging to now?

At Manchester United....

Ole has not won a trophy and not competed for the league. our record against the top 4 is not good and we been beaten well a few times by our rivals during his tenure.

he has also spent 3/400m with a third of that on 2 defenders we will need to replace as soon as he leaves

He hasn’t done a great job ffs be serious.
. he has done a decent job and just about that.

Originally Posted by marlo

At Manchester United....

Ole has not won a trophy and not competed for the league. our record against the top 4 is not good and we been beaten well a few times by our rivals during his tenure.

he has also spent 3/400m with a third of that on 2 defenders we will need to replace as soon as he leaves

He hasn’t done a great job ffs be serious.
. he has done a decent job and just about that.

Accurate tbf

Yep, that is definitely the only thing Mike Phelan has ever done

Cretin.

Originally Posted by marlo

At Manchester United....

Ole has not won a trophy and not competed for the league. our record against the top 4 is not good and we been beaten well a few times by our rivals during his tenure.

he has also spent 3/400m with a third of that on 2 defenders we will need to replace as soon as he leaves

He hasn’t done a great job ffs be serious.
. he has done a decent job and just about that.

Yep

The Young bashing is a bit rich too considering he’s a better RB than Wan Bissaka and never sunk to the lows Luke Shaw has at LB - and he wasn’t even a defender.

Originally Posted by saffers

What has been improved in the last 3 years.

The defence? The attack? The midfield? The academy? Trophies? Good football?

All of the numbers are ugly for Ole. So childish to claim there are people who never wanted him to do well. The fact is that he has been the most backed United manager yet has failed miserably.

Back to back humiliations at home against our biggest rivals.

"unfair to dismiss what he has achieved". What the £#%&! has he achieved?

Spending £135m on two defenders who will be shipped out the moment a new coach comes? Please tell us about his achievements, i'm curious.

jose spent 180 million on two colossal @#%&!s one left the other will be going for free

The unflushable turd.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

New formations as well. Don't think i've ever seen a 7 man defence in a derby before.

april 2012 .. not one shot on target cost us the league

Originally Posted by saffers

your boy employed carrick and mckenna you #@&%! . whilst buying lukaku and pogba bailly lindelof mikhi thats between 250 to 300 million of utter shite .. also straddling the club with sanchez . he played fellaine weekly and made him captain . since hes gone hes had two jobs .. joses that good that the club he went to which has won one trophy in 20 years , actaully sacked him 6 days before a cup final hes that £#%&!ing toxic . the second club hes at id imagine are about to £#%&!ing bin him , as he being beaten by everyone , even a team of £#%&!ing hobbits ..

Damn,world class coaching staff right here

Originally Posted by puressence

april 2012 .. not one shot on target cost us the league



your boy employed carrick and mckenna you #@&%! . whilst buying lukaku and pogba bailly lindelof mikhi thats between 250 to 300 million of utter shite .. also straddling the club with sanchez . he played fellaine weekly and made him captain . since hes gone hes had two jobs .. joses that good that the club he went to which has won one trophy in 20 years , actaully sacked him 6 days before a cup final hes that £#%&!ing toxic . the second club hes at id imagine are about to £#%&!ing bin him , as he being beaten by everyone , even a team of £#%&!ing hobbits ..

Saffers bashing aside that's still a pretty £#%&!ing awful coaching team, disgraceful tbh

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Yep.

Watching that Rangknick video yesterday and he’s talking about all the top managers having a vision of their teams perfect game and they go with that, win, lose or draw. And you should be able to see it in a team, even when it doesn’t work.

Basically, the opposite of us.

We played 5 to simply have more defenders because we can’t stop conceding. It worked, so we stuck with it. Now it hasn’t worked, so now what?

Just stumbling from one game to the next, never really getting better at anything.

Can anybody tell me ONE thing we do better as a team than when he first got here?

They supposedly had talks with Rangnick in the past, ‘a long way back’ but ultimately pulled out of negotiations because they feared the director wasn’t easy to work with.

“Manchester United would be a big dream for Ralf Rangnick,” he said.

“I heard he had talks with the board long back but the board changed his mind as he wasn't an easy person for them to work with.

“I’m not sure if United will come back for him."

And look what's happened
When you find someone easy to work with
Like Ole.

not easy to work with = knows something about football and might aim to win trophies

Not easy = will challenge, with place demands, will have expectations.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Not easy = will challenge, with place demands, will have expectations.

they want someone who's just happy to be there.