Jose: The forwards to blame for that

Originally Posted by andyroo

Huh? He does all the time. He just never wins.

It happened with your hero for a bit.

He hasn't took a player on all season.

He's a waste of shirt, and not good enough for a team who aspires to win a league title.

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

He hasn't took a player on all season.

He's a waste of shirt, and not good enough for a team who aspires to win a league title.

He took on loads of players today. Too many.

There's plenty you can criticise him for. You're just being a @#%&! because you don't like him. You're entitled to an opinion, just say so though.

Originally Posted by Clarkie

This is what happens when you put all the focus on your attacking and build up play on one man.

When he's missing, they haven't a £#%&!ing notion of what else to do...

Jesus, it actually irritates me that some of them have the mentality of a £#%&!ing child.

or , he has to play Ibra and through him because no other £#%&!er can find the net.

The most basic fundamental problem is that nobody played centre forward Today, Rashford and Lingard wander all over the place and Mkhi plays 10. and then we're playing inaccurate pullbacks to the first defender or fizzing it across the 6 yard box to nobody all £#%&!ing game. Mourinho rotating a bit rather than putting Zlatan in even for shitty cup ties might have helped a bit when we had to play somebody else up there.

West Brom have been a bogey side since Fergie jacked and we were always going to struggle without Ibra, Pogba, Herrera and Mata against a team that sits that deep in two banks of 4, it was painfully slow Today with Carrick and Fellaini in there, one can pass but can't run and the other can run but can't pass for shit.

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

He hasn't took a player on all season.

He's a waste of shirt, and not good enough for a team who aspires to win a league title.

https://www.twitter.com/Squawka/status/815240533698375681

Originally Posted by Clarkie

This is what happens when you put all the focus on your attacking and build up play on one man.

When he's missing, they haven't a £#%&!ing notion of what else to do...

Jesus, it actually irritates me that some of them have the mentality of a £#%&!ing child.

We did OK without him in the last league game tbf.

Which was, of course, away from OT. It seems increasingly clear we have "issues" with home games that are expected easy wins.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

What has happened to Martial? Seriously??

same as always...few good starting games means he's ronaldo.

He's been as shit as depay and with a face like a slapped arse.

Hope he's the first to follow rooney, smalling, jones and fellaini out the door during the summer.

Originally Posted by Clarkie

This is what happens when you put all the focus on your attacking and build up play on one man.

When he's missing, they haven't a £#%&!ing notion of what else to do...

Jesus, it actually irritates me that some of them have the mentality of a £#%&!ing child.

Absolutely this, Mou needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for the inconsistent form of the likes of Martial/Rashford. There were plenty of opportunities to experiment which he didn't take, no good blaming the players with a month of the season to go.

Originally Posted by Ethers

https://www.twitter.com/Squawka/stat...40533698375681

These stats are bullshit hipster new age football fan stats. If he doesnf assist, score, or create any clear cut chances...heck even half chances ( which he didnt today) it means he had a bad game. Quit defending half assed performances

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

These stats are bullshit hipster new age football fan stats. If he doesnf assist, score, or create any clear cut chances...heck even half chances ( which he didnt today) it means he had a bad game. Quit defending half assed performances

Mate, he wasn't doing anything of the sort. He was just shooting down flagrant bullshit about Martial not taking players on. The whole problem is it's all he ever does.

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

These stats are bullshit hipster new age football fan stats. If he doesnf assist, score, or create any clear cut chances...heck even half chances ( which he didnt today) it means he had a bad game. Quit defending half assed performances

Erm, I think his point was that he does take on players. HTH.

People who have no patience for Martial yet want Mbappe

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

These stats are bullshit hipster new age football fan stats. If he doesnf assist, score, or create any clear cut chances...heck even half chances ( which he didnt today) it means he had a bad game. Quit defending half assed performances

Can you even read what I posted, you colossal gimp?

Starting martial in the striker slot would help tbph.

we lack leaders on the pitch...... We have eh Ibra and even he would not live with the leaders we had in the past........... Schmicheal, Bruce, Ince, Robson, Cantona, Keane, Stam, Rio, Vidic, Van der Sar, we have nothing like that now, you know your team lacks balls when its either Rooney, Carrick or Smalling that is captaining the side.........

agree with the manager in the main - carrick wasn't great but the only real fault of the 6 was not enough quality feed into the channels from the full backs, but martial (and rashford too often tbh) don't make themselves an option quickly enough when they drop off in the channels ...

all a bit shit really, with no genuine wide threat on either side, too many narrow angle crosses, and the only thing close to real width coming down the edges of the box ...

as an aside, how many of the matches we have that go like that, with the opponent wasting time for fun and with us getting constantly pulled up for niggly fouls, are when mike dean refs us? it seems almost guaranteed to go like that.

£#%&! me. west brom at home and he's happy six outfield players stopped them scoring? how about maybe bailly, rojo and a defensive midfielder stop them scoring while everyone else contributes to us getting a goal? fellaini is a total £#%&!ing waste of time in a game like that. and tony v (whom I love) had one of his most pass-the-buck games. absolutely no intelligence up front at all. if fellaini had to play, we'd have been better off him elbowing jonny £#%&!ing evans in the penalty area a few times.

Originally Posted by jem

£#%&! me. west brom at home and he's happy six outfield players stopped them scoring? how about maybe bailly, rojo and a defensive midfielder stop them scoring while everyone else contributes to us getting a goal? fellaini is a total £#%&!ing waste of time in a game like that. and tony v (whom I love) had one of his most pass-the-buck games. absolutely no intelligence up front at all. if fellaini had to play, we'd have been better off him elbowing jonny £#%&!ing evans in the penalty area a few times.

There's no way Fellaini wasn't playing in that game given what they did to Arsenal, even if we were injury free.

last paragraph spot on sparky ...

you have to score and take the ref out of the game against spoilers like that because the longer it goes the more annoying his part in it becomes ...

but ultimately it happens far far too often to be coincidence, and in the old days under fergie the longer a game goes the more bodies we get into the box and nearly always that results in more time for approach play and much more likelihood that something drops for us in front of goal - there was no major secret to the fergie time phenomenon. it really was just all about cranking the tempo up and forcing the opponent into submission at times. when was the last time united did that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCLdkl7BTo

2:30

very relevant comments. really digging a few players out. They know who they are.