Stat of the Day re David De Gea

I think this stat is wrong, Albiston is the closest, but at best,would only have been a youth team player when Busby returned briefly in 71.

So if you're counting youth team players, then Rashford would be keeping the link going.

Sammy Mcllroy And then Bryan Robson are the players who bridged the gap between fergie and Busby.

Originally Posted by oohahhpaulmcgrath

Sammy Mcllroy And then Bryan Robson are the players who bridged the gap between fergie and Busby.

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Originally Posted by moransbleedinghead

I think this stat is wrong, Albiston is the closest, but at best,would only have been a youth team player when Busby returned briefly in 71.

So if you're counting youth team players, then Rashford would be keeping the link going.

Signed as an apprentice a year after Busby left.

It’s a very tenuous stat at best.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

When we kick off the new season, it will be the first time in 88 years that we have no players who have played for either Sir Matt Busby or Sir Alex Ferguson.

First time since 1934-35 season.

Am I missing something? Thought Sir Matt took the reigns in 1945. So everyone in 1934/35 was still there in 1945?

Originally Posted by avocado

Am I missing something? Thought Sir Matt took the reigns in 1945. So everyone in 1934/35 was still there in 1945?

No, only one player needs to be. One player who would play under Busby at some point. Then one player who would play under Fergie at some point.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

No, only one player needs to be. One player who would play under Busby at some point. Then one player who would play under Fergie at some point.

But between 34 and 44 no one played under Busby. So a bit of a weird premise …. you may give Ferguson credit for players remaining beyond his tenure, but to give credit to Busby for those that were there 10 years before him? I’ve said it before and will no doubt say it again, but journalism these days ….

Originally Posted by avocado

But between 34 and 44 no one played under Busby. So a bit of a weird premise …. you may give Ferguson credit for players remaining beyond his tenure, but to give credit to Busby for those that were there 10 years before him? I’ve said it before and will no doubt say it again, but journalism these days ….

Look pal, take it up with the journo...

Originally Posted by avocado

But between 34 and 44 no one played under Busby. So a bit of a weird premise …. you may give Ferguson credit for players remaining beyond his tenure, but to give credit to Busby for those that were there 10 years before him? I’ve said it before and will no doubt say it again, but journalism these days ….

It's not giving credit to anyone for the players being there, it is highlighting the stability at the club with two such long serving and successful managers.

Tommy Doc gave Albiston his debut. I don't know why Bryan Robson is mentioned as Atkinson signed him.

Originally Posted by Seamus

Tommy Doc gave Albiston his debut. I don't know why Bryan Robson is mentioned as Atkinson signed him.

the stat is that between 1934 and now there has always been a player in the united squad who at some point in their career played under either Busby or Ferguson.

so looking at the periods between 1934 and today when neither Busby or Ferguson were the manager: someone who started playing for united in 1934 and was stil there in 1945 (i.e. went on to play for Busby) covers that period. McIlroy who played for Busby covers 1975 until about 1981/82. then Robson, who went on to play for Ferguson covers from 81 to 86. then de gea covers 2013 onwards.

we've all concluded that it's a terrible stat, and a terrible thread.

And Tom Heaton covers from July 2023 onwards

Originally Posted by pedr0

the stat is that between 1934 and now there has always been a player in the united squad who at some point in their career played under either Busby or Ferguson.

so looking at the periods between 1934 and today when neither Busby or Ferguson were the manager: someone who started playing for united in 1934 and was stil there in 1945 (i.e. went on to play for Busby) covers that period. McIlroy who played for Busby covers 1975 until about 1981/82. then Robson, who went on to play for Ferguson covers from 81 to 86. then de gea covers 2013 onwards.

we've all concluded that it's a terrible stat, and a terrible thread.

Let's not be hasty. Has conjured some wonderful debate - albeit about what a shit stat it is.

Originally Posted by avocado

But between 34 and 44 no one played under Busby. So a bit of a weird premise …. you may give Ferguson credit for players remaining beyond his tenure, but to give credit to Busby for those that were there 10 years before him? I’ve said it before and will no doubt say it again, but journalism these days ….

I haven’t checked so I don’t know if that first sentence is correct. Fair enough if so.

I think people are reading too much into it. It’s not ‘giving credit’, it’s just a trivial stat.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

I haven’t checked so I don’t know if that first sentence is correct. Fair enough if so.

I think people are reading too much into it. It’s not ‘giving credit’, it’s just a trivial stat.

Potentially one that is made up, too.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Let's not be hasty. Has conjured some wonderful debate - albeit about what a shit stat it is.

Well I thought it was quite interesting, if true Trouble is, it's so bloody hard to check, you've literally got to check the team sheet for every game from 1934 onwards

I think we can all agree that in years to come we hope that ETH's name gets added to those of Sir Matt and Sir Alex and it continues to be true.

Originally Posted by pedr0

the stat is that between 1934 and now there has always been a player in the united squad who at some point in their career played under either Busby or Ferguson.

so looking at the periods between 1934 and today when neither Busby or Ferguson were the manager: someone who started playing for united in 1934 and was stil there in 1945 (i.e. went on to play for Busby) covers that period. McIlroy who played for Busby covers 1975 until about 1981/82. then Robson, who went on to play for Ferguson covers from 81 to 86. then de gea covers 2013 onwards.

we've all concluded that it's a terrible stat, and a terrible thread.

thanks for clearing that up.

This thread, £#%&!ing hell...

Originally Posted by red red robbo

Well I thought it was quite interesting, if true Trouble is, it's so bloody hard to check, you've literally got to check the team sheet for every game from 1934 onwards .

No you don’t

It’s not about being in the team, it’s about being in the squad. Otherwise the stat would have been broken when De Gea had been dropped or rested.