England to Win?

Originally Posted by ErikvanHaaksbergen

France is the one team that is better in 8 or 9 areas of the pitch .. also in their side of the draw .. can't see them moving past it. If they were in the other side of the draw then a path to the final would be eminently possible.

2-3 England players in a combined 11?

Looking at France's line up this afternoon, I find that hard to believe.

Think they will struggle tonight let alone the whole thing. Inherent cowardice will as per usual be their undoing.

Originally Posted by Coracao

2-3 England players in a combined 11?

Looking at France's line up this afternoon, I find that hard to believe.

Bellingham for Rabiot certainly
Walker for Pavard/Kounde at right back certainly (at least when Pavard is in this form)
Saka for Dembele likely (although arguable Dembele has higher ceiling when in the mood)
Kane over Giroud (but v. debatable over whether Kane would go over Benzema, were he fit. Consensus is likely not.)

Becomes tricky at that point. Who would you take instead other than above?

Originally Posted by ErikvanHaaksbergen

Bellingham for Rabiot certainly
Walker for Pavard/Kounde at right back certainly (at least when Pavard is in this form)
Saka for Dembele likely (although arguable Dembele has higher ceiling when in the mood)
Kane over Giroud (but v. debatable over whether Kane would go over Benzema, were he fit. Consensus is likely not.)

Becomes tricky at that point. Who would you take instead other than above?

Foden over Griezmann any day of the week. That's already half a side Hernandez not really any better than Shaw. Both keepers are clowns on their day.

Benzema isn't in the tournament, so completely moot point really.

If England had Varane, they'd probably be favourites for the tournament.

Originally Posted by Coracao

Foden over Griezmann any day of the week. That's already half a side Hernandez not really any better than Shaw. Both keepers are clowns on their day.

Benzema isn't in the tournament, so completely moot point really.

If England had Varane, they'd probably be favourites for the tournament.

Foden plays his best football on either side of the wing (unless false 9 .. which neither team plays with .. the structure of both sides is quite similar). Above Dembele obviously (in which case Saka drops out), but none of the England wide players deserve mention in the same breath as Mbappe if discussing other side.

Shaw has had a few decent cumulative months of football for 5 years. Good this season, but not sold on him above either of the Hernandez brothers .. always comes up short in the games that matter, only trophy he's got is for a tournament he was dropped in while majority of this forum were clamouring for him to be dropped for Holland's reserve up to 8 weeks ago. We'll see how it goes.

Pickford does not go over Lloris. None of the England centre backs make the France squad let alone team. Mbappe speaks for himself. Tchouaméni best midfielder from both teams. Griezmann over Mount. Kane yes as mentioned, given Benzema's injury. Where the gaps are wide, they are very wide.

Originally Posted by ErikvanHaaksbergen

Foden plays his best football on either side of the wing (unless false 9 .. which neither team plays with .. the structure of both sides is quite similar). Above Dembele obviously (in which case Saka drops out), but none of the England wide players deserve mention in the same breath as Mbappe if discussing other side.

Shaw has had a few decent cumulative months of football for 5 years. Good this season, but not sold on him above either of the Hernandez brothers .. always comes up short in the games that matter, only trophy he's got is for a tournament he was dropped in while majority of this forum were clamouring for him to be dropped for Holland's reserve up to 8 weeks ago. We'll see how it goes.

Pickford does not go over Lloris. None of the England centre backs make the France squad let alone team. Mbappe speaks for himself. Tchouaméni best midfielder from both teams. Griezmann over Mount. Kane yes as mentioned, given Benzema's injury. Where the gaps are wide, they are very wide.

He may well play his best football out wide currently, I'd still pick him every day of the week over Griezmann.

Think we've already agreed that the 2-3 claim was nonsense anyway.

Originally Posted by Coracao

He may well play his best football out wide currently, I'd still pick him every day of the week over Griezmann.

Think we've already agreed that the 2-3 claim was nonsense anyway.

3 + Kane while Benzema is injured. Let's see how the tournament progresses.

Originally Posted by ErikvanHaaksbergen

3 + Kane while Benzema is injured. Let's see how the tournament progresses.

Benzema isn't coming back into the squad. Soz to spoil it for you.

Well well welly welly well well

Christ i hope not


Sir Southgate
MBEs for 'Hendo' and Foden
#@&%!heads dancing in the street



Allez les Bleus

Charles will slip when knighting and chop Gareth's head off

Sterling gone home!

Originally Posted by armchair

Sterling gone home!

House broken into, family were inside....

First big test next

https://youtu.be/k_uzW1M52xs

40 years on.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

House broken into, family were inside....

was it the french? I never trusted them tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLLDZvbG-U

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

House broken into, family were inside....

I wondered if it was something like that. Presume similar for Ben White? Targeting England players houses while they know they are away.

Originally Posted by Sapien

I wondered if it was something like that. Presume similar for Ben White? Targeting England players houses while they know they are away.

Sancho be like…

Going to be a smashing game v france.