Manchester United v West Ham : Official Match Thread 14/3/21 7:15pm

Originally Posted by utd99

It’s irrelevant on a player by player basis. We’ve had plenty of world class players at this club that cost nothing. Barcelona had three of the top five players in the world for a decade that cost them £#%&! all. You’re implying that the fact we had two home growns up front yesterday is an indicator of our lack of quality, but money doesn’t guarantee quality. However I do agree that it significantly increases the probability of strength in depth.

Well given that we should have won about 4-0 but for the fact neither of our home grown forwards could score several gilt edged chances, that would sort of back up my point.

We haven't produced a world class player at this club for nothing since the early 90s.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Well given that we should have won about 4-0 but for the fact neither of our home grown forwards could score several gilt edged chances, that would sort of back up my point.

We haven't produced a world class player at this club for nothing since the early 90s.

Fletcher was the last decent player? You could argue pogba but I don’t want this thread to descend into chaos .

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Fletcher was the last decent player? You could argue pogba but I don’t want this thread to descend into chaos .

Utd99 is correct, you can produce your own world class players so therefore in that respect i suppose you could argue money isn't everything.

But unfortunately home-grown world class players are rarer than unicorn shit. In fact how many world class, home grown players have we had at United in the last half century? 4? Charlton, Best.. Scholes, Beckham... Nobody else comes to mind.

The fact is unless there's a some once in a generational talent coming through, if you want elite level players you have to buy them. Having very good players or having top class players really is the difference between winning the league or finishing 2nd/3rd.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Utd99 is correct, you can produce your own world class players so therefore in that respect i suppose you could argue money isn't everything.

But unfortunately home-grown world class players are rarer than unicorn shit. In fact how many world class, home grown players have we had at United in the last half century? 4? Charlton, Best.. Scholes, Beckham... Nobody else comes to mind.

The fact is unless there's a some once in a generational talent coming through, if you want elite level players you have to buy them. Having very good players or having top class players really is the difference between winning the league or finishing 2nd/3rd.

we have had more than most

Originally Posted by plopborsky

we have had more than most

yeah I know that's why we've won a lot of stuff.

Glenn Hoddle has urged Manchester United to sign a ‘young Edinson Cavani’ during their search for a striker.


Speaking about United’s transfer dealings, Hoddle said (via Express): “Yeah [a striker] would be the [priority]. I think it’s got to be. You need a young Cavani.

“You’ve got Cavani at the wrong time. Five or six years ago, his movement, his hold-up play, everything he had and he’s got still.

“When he plays for United I see a different United team, even now at his age. And he’s not that old, what is he, 33?



https://strettynews.com/2021/03/15/h...-young-cavani/

you think about the opportunities yesterday and what having a £#%&!ing good striker would have done for us. He would have buried the header that rashford missed.

don't see how anyone can say money is irrelevant or not a factor. It certainly plays a bit part but players at whatever price still have to produce the goods.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

yeah I know that's why we've won a lot of stuff.

forgot Giggsy....

Originally Posted by Vida_15

you think about the opportunities yesterday and what having a £#%&!ing good striker would have done for us. He would have buried the header that rashford missed.

don't see how anyone can say money is irrelevant or not a factor. It certainly plays a bit part but players at whatever price still have to produce the goods.




forgot Giggsy....

he forgot loads but thats not the point

Originally Posted by plopborsky

he forgot loads but thats not the point

can you help me out then please?

Originally Posted by Vida_15

y


forgot Giggsy....

blimey

Originally Posted by Sparky***

can you help me out then please?



blimey

i will post a list you will say they are shit and they are not amazing world class players that you say they should be and then we post some funny gifs.

Fact is united have always tried to build via youth teams. The class of 92 was a freak and wont be repeated anytime soon but saying that we should just blow money ( we did that with sanchez and that group) has shown that its not the most successful way to consistently win.

the irony of your usersname not being on that list is not lost on me either

Originally Posted by plopborsky

i will post a list you will say they are shit and they are not amazing world class players that you say they should be and then we post some funny gifs.

Fact is united have always tried to build via youth teams. The class of 92 was a freak and wont be repeated anytime soon but saying that we should just blow money ( we did that with sanchez and that group) has shown that its not the most successful way to consistently win.

the irony of your usersname not being on that list is not lost on me either

well no, blowing money generally means you've wasted it, so i agree that's not the most successful way.

Apart from that i'm glad you agree with me.

Originally Posted by 20LEgend1999

Before anyone tries to prove we're less cautious/more entertaining under Ole by pointing out how many more goals we're scoring and the amount of times we've won by large margins, don't forget that teams "play into our hands" these days, so those goals don't count.

Defeats/draws against lower sides - these are down to our manager, but wins aren't (as opposed to luck/"moments of brilliance"/the opposition not trying)

That's how it works, yes?