Deluded Scousers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai...5/sfnhan25.xml

"On that plane coming back from Athens, Liverpool had two outstanding players - Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher."


So long as Liverpool actually believe that Jamie Carragher is outstanding, they will never win the league. Long may it continue.

Both were shite

Boris for PM

i think you are the deluded one here sorry. fair f***s to the lad, he can read the game well and he gives his all whenever i have seen him. he's just unlucky that at the minute england have 2 very exceptional defenders in terry and rio.

f*** me i can't believe i typed that without smashing my own skull in.

Originally Posted by believe

i think you are the deluded one here sorry. fair f***s to the lad, he can read the game well and he gives his all whenever i have seen him. he's just unlucky that at the minute england have 2 very exceptional defenders in terry and rio.

f*** me i can't believe i typed that without smashing my own skull in.

That's exactly what he can't do.

His speciality it last ditch tackles. These tend to be called for due to his lack of "reading the game".

Oh, and he was at fault for both goals on Wednesday, just as he was at fault for both our goals at OT in October.

As I said, long may it continue.

Carragher is a good player within Liverpool's system. He's never impressed on England duty and I'd hazard a guess that he could only produce the displays he does for the club he loves. If he was transferred I doubt he'd show the same grit.

Grit alone is seldom enough to be outstanding.

Look how he follows the ball, leaving a nice gap for Scholes to run into...

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Great clearance/assist..

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Another great clearance...

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Shockingly bad defending, not to mention lazy...

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I also recall him having a mare away to Everton and Arsenal, but cant be arsed to find the clips.


Another Scouse myth, but one I am happy to let them believe.

I can't help but laugh when people say hes better than Ferdinand

He can't even last 90 minutes, he gets cramp after 60 minutes

Originally Posted by rhodzy

I can't help but laugh when people say hes better than Ferdinand

He can't even last 90 minutes, he gets cramp after 60 minutes

He's a good centre half. One of the most improved players in british football to be fair and one of the main reasons that they have such a tight defence. Which they do.

I don't think Ferdinand gets the credit he deserves because he's not as all action as Vidic or indeed Carragher/Terry, he tends to make it look easy and people think (maybe because of his wide boy bentley persona) thay he's lazy. All defenders are prone to lapses of concentration and mistakes, like goalkeepers, when they make one, it's higher profile than say, the 5 missed chances that a Van Nistelrooy has as compared to the one he takes..Rio's consistency this season has been one of the many factors that have led to us winning the title which seemed so far away last summer.

Lets be fair to the disgusting vermin, Carragher is a good player, Gerrard an excellent player, Alonso is decent, Mascherano is brilliant, Kuyt is a good, honest, hard working but only just above average centre forward and erm...thats about it. The rest of them are dogshit.

Alonsos a much better midfielder than Gerrard, he actually knows how to play centre midfield.
Mascheranos a good player, Kuyts a slighty better version than Smith, Aurelio will be great for them.

My red-tinted specs are well and truly off for this.

I am willing to give players like Gerrard credit, and I honestly believe him to be wasted in a system as negative as Liverpool's. It means there is not opportunity for him to play in his strongest position, as he is required to sacrifice himself for "the team".


Since Mascherano has moved to Liverpool he has shown what all the fuss was about when he initially came to England. No surprise he couldn't show his true-self at West Am. (And he's a million miles better than that other overrated tw*t, Sissoko).

As for Carragher, Scousers love him for his "heart" and "grit" and "cos he's a local boy", and "he's one of us"..."look at that last ditch tackle, tha woz boss"...

And I love it because, for all his grit and determination, positionally he is found wanting and he is technically, one of the worst players at Liverpool.

Originally Posted by rhodzy

Alonsos a much better midfielder than Gerrard, he actually knows how to play centre midfield.
Mascheranos a good player, Kuyts a slighty better version than Smith, Aurelio will be great for them.

I would say Smith is better than Kuyt. The only vermin player I would haev is Mascherano.

I thought Gonzalez was going to make an impact over here. Turns out he's shit.

Carragher is shite, Gerrard is over-rated, Mascherano is an Alonso/Sissoko clone

they are one of the most boring piles of shite ever assembled on a football field....and next year it will be 19 years and counting, that is all

Originally Posted by f*** KFC

Carragher is shite, Gerrard is over-rated, Mascherano is an Alonso/Sissoko clone

they are one of the most boring piles of shite ever assembled on a football field....and next year it will be 19 years and counting, that is all

you're a fellow red, and I hate to say this to a fellow red, but that's some proper balls right there.

Carragher's not shite. If he was shite, he'd be playing for City.


Gerrard is a brilliant player. If he had been born 30 miles to the east and wore our shirt we'd love him.


Alonso and Sissoko are two of the most different style of midfielders you could possibly compare. Alonso's game is built on quality, precise distribution and Sissoko is more of an all action, bustling player (a very poor man's patrick vieira). Mascherano is like neither. He breaks up the oppositions play by sitting in front of the back four and stopping the opponents most creative players from having the room to operate and then gives the ball simply and effectively to his own teams more creative players. He's an efficient destroyer. He does the job that Hargreaves is ultimately being brought in to do for us.

But yes, they are boring, and yes indeed, they will not, without a major overhaul of players this Summer, be winning the Premiership next season.

Wouldn't it be nice to win it in Moscow next year?

Then we can really gloat