We should sell Rio this summer.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

You can't win anything with kids?

Not true.

Originally Posted by Carrick

Not true.

My point exactly.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

My point exactly.

How can you compare that group of youngsters to the present situation?

There must be an element of wum in this, surely?

Selling one of the best centre-havles in the world and replacing him with a 19-year-old rookie who has never even kicked a ball for us in the Premiership.

I don't believe this is serious.

Sell O'Shea, Silvestre, Richardson and Smith, and give Simpson, Evans, Gibson and Rossi their places in the squad.

Originally Posted by Carrick

How can you compare that group of youngsters to the present situation?

I don't really understand your question? I am suggesting bringing ina superbly talented young player just as we did in the past?

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

There must be an element of wum in this, surely?

Selling one of the best centre-havles in the world and replacing him with a 19-year-old rookie who has never even kicked a ball for us in the Premiership.

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Or selling one of the best centre mids in the world and replacing him with a 20 year old off-striker? Or selling a world class right winger and replacing him with a 20 year old midfielder? Madness.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

I don't really understand your question? I am suggesting bringing ina superbly talented young player just as we did in the past?

Well, you are not as clever as you think.

'just as we did in the past'....when they were ready.

Think about it.

Originally Posted by Carrick

Well, you are not as clever as you think.

'just as we did in the past'....when they were ready.

Think about it.

He'll be ready for next season. Again what is your point? Oh and never said I was "clever", so cut out the snideness.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Or selling one of the best centre mids in the world and replacing him with a 20 year old off-striker? Or selling a world class right winger and replacing him with a 20 year old midfielder? Madness.

Neither were world class.

But anyway, it's a different Premiership these days.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

But anyway, it's a different Premiership these days.

Really? Cos Kolo Toure seems to have just stepped in and played rather well for Arsenal at a very young age and Djourou too. It's the United way to give youth a chance and we should do this with Evans before we waste him.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Neither were world class.

They were as world class as Rio.

I think Toure was integrated, though, like all Arsenal youngsters. He wasn't just thrown in at the beginning of the season as first choice without having played previously. In fact, at one stage I remember him looking a bit of a weak link when he was being used as a versatile squad player. I think it was when Keown and Campbell were the first choice.

As for Ferdinand's comparison with the other two, Rio has excelled at levels the other two never did - in Champions League & World Cup.

why break up the best defence in the league and one of the bigger personalities in the dressing room if its not broken?

There are many players we should ditch before we sell Rio.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I don't believe this is serious.

Sell O'Shea, Silvestre, Richardson and Smith, and give Simpson, Evans, Gibson and Rossi their places in the squad.

Gets my vote.

Ferdinand can play like he does for at least 5 more years. We had this discussion on here the other day about taking the cash and promoting Evans. Shouldn't happen; Evans will be pushing for a place, and sometimes playing in a 3 if we get a Hargreaves.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

As for Ferdinand's comparison with the other two, Rio has excelled at levels the other two never did - in Champions League & World Cup.

I don't think Rio has got close to excelling in the Champions League, in fact at times he's been distinctly average. As for World Cups, he was undoubtedly superb in 2002 but got nowhere near that form in 06 nor for United since.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

I don't think Rio has got close to excelling in the Champions League, in fact at times he's been distinctly average. As for World Cups, he was undoubtedly superb in 2002 but got nowhere near that form in 06 nor for United since.

Ferdinand was England's best defender in Germany, and United's defensive record in the CL in always is pretty good these days.

ferdinand isnt world class ffs

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Ferdinand was England's best defender in Germany, and United's defensive record in the CL in always is pretty good these days.

nicky butt was englands best player in 2002

Originally Posted by puressence

ferdinand isnt world class ffs

How you can play centre back and be hopeless in the air but be considered world class I don't know. You'd have to be adaquate at least. Also tobe so lacking in leadership.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Gets my vote.

Ferdinand can play like he does for at least 5 more years. We had this discussion on here the other day about taking the cash and promoting Evans. Shouldn't happen; Evans will be pushing for a place, and sometimes playing in a 3 if we get a Hargreaves.

No thank you. 4-4-2 please.