Are we stuck in the past with our national side?

Originally Posted by denis lawless

so he isnt german then

Sure he is. He's grown up there and lived almost his whole life there.

Originally Posted by wonky no

my mistake, i've always thought he was welsh

He is, he was born in Chester but only because it's the nearest hospickle to his home town of HAWARDEN, which is in Wales.

Originally Posted by Grimson

Sure he is. He's grown up there and lived almost his whole life there.

:shakehead:

born in Poland, Polish mother, Polish father (whose grandad was german....so in effect, Lukas's great grandad) ...he has a Polish first name (christened Lukasz) and a Polish surname........first language spoken , Polish.

and just for good measure, although not relevant ...the mother of his child is Polish

so yeah...hes german alright

i'll tell you what he is...hes a traitor @#%&!, thats what he is

£#%&!in farce

Originally Posted by denis lawless

:shakehead:

born in Poland, Polish mother, Polish father (whose grandad was german....so in effect, Lukas's great grandad) ...he has a Polish first name (christened Lukasz) and a Polish surname........first language spoken , Polish.

and just for good measure, although not relevant ...the mother of his child is Polish

so yeah...hes german alright

i'll tell you what he is...hes a traitor @#%&!, thats what he is

£#%&!in farce

Berbatov > podolski

Originally Posted by £#%&! KFC

Berbatov > podolski

at least he didnt £#%&! off and play for Hungary

Originally Posted by denis lawless

:shakehead:

born in Poland, Polish mother, Polish father (whose grandad was german....so in effect, Lukas's great grandad) ...he has a Polish first name (christened Lukasz) and a Polish surname........first language spoken , Polish.

and just for good measure, although not relevant ...the mother of his child is Polish

so yeah...hes german alright

i'll tell you what he is...hes a traitor @#%&!, thats what he is

£#%&!in farce

poles are basically just less intelligent germans anyway arent they?

Originally Posted by irk

poles are basically just less intelligent germans anyway arent they?

Originally Posted by irk

poles are basically just less intelligent germans anyway arent they?

and YOU can £#%&! off n'all

Hawarden is part Chester part Wales. Though that little @#%&! did go to a Welsh school where they speak and study Welsh

England need to freshen things up. Bring in the young lads who are in their late teens/ early 20s and set in place the foundations for the next world cup.

We may even surprise a few people and not disgrace ourselves in the Euros 2012 if we qualify.

The likes of Gerrard, Terry, Lampard, Rio aren't going to be there in 2014. They'll be well past it. They've had their chance and failed. Get rid of the egos, the scandal, stop picking players because of their name living off past glories and build a real team who play AS a team.

gary bailey

england need to realise that midfielders like scholes, xavi, schweinsteiger etc are worth their weight in gold, to find players with some of their ability to play it simple and control a game and to build the team around them. and, since even england's best passing midfielders, scholes aside, are a level below the likes of spain and germany, they need to realise that they won't get anywhere giving other sides a numerical advantage in the middle and playing a two against other sides' threes.

unfortunately the premier league doesn't produce that kind of player in any quantity, which is all the more reason to cherish the ones england does produce - carrick and joe cole at the moment, probably tom huddlestone and jack wilshere in time for the next euros. add in lee cattermole (a very underrated player imo), jordan henderson and tom cleverley, probably one or two others, and you've got a group of midfielders who could become a very impressive unit over the next five to ten years.

Originally Posted by borsuk

carrick and joe cole at the moment, probably tom huddlestone and jack wilshere in time for the next euros. add in lee cattermole (a very underrated player imo), jordan henderson and tom cleverley, probably one or two others, and you've got a group of midfielders who could become a very impressive unit over the next five to ten years.

(puts on best Mark Bright voice) "yeah but they're not really box to box players are they Borsuk? Where's that dddrrrrriveeee from midfield/lung bursting run into the box going to come from which we always see from your Lampards or your Stevie Gs?"

Originally Posted by denis lawless

:shakehead:

born in Poland, Polish mother, Polish father (whose grandad was german....so in effect, Lukas's great grandad) ...he has a Polish first name (christened Lukasz) and a Polish surname........first language spoken , Polish.

and just for good measure, although not relevant...

None of the above was relevant either. He's German ffs.

You can tell he's not Polish because he's not useless at football.

Originally Posted by n48

(puts on best Mark Bright voice) "yeah but they're not really box to box players are they Borsuk? Where's that dddrrrrriveeee from midfield/lung bursting run into the box going to come from which we always see from your Lampards or your Stevie Gs?"

clueless @#%&! that bright.

England are an embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Grimson

None of the above was relevant either. He's German ffs.

You can tell he's not Polish because he's not useless at football.

true dat

Originally Posted by Grimson

None of the above was relevant either. He's German ffs.

complete and utter %@#$&!s !!

by your reckoning , he could have played for Italy because he once ate a pizza when he was 5 ffs

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

true dat

enjoy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iRgLQxJ-J0&feature=related

Originally Posted by denis lawless

so he isnt german then

oh...and Klose was born in £#%&!ing Poland as well

pair of @#%&!z !!!

where do you draw the line though? Obviously podolski has spent 95% of his life in Germany, is 'naturalised' etc

Klose didn't move until he was 11 I think? but again still spent majority of his life in Germany.


There should be a defined set of rules, clearly though. The boateng brothers - what the £#%&! is that about :shakhead:

Darron Gibson