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Unread 15-11-2023, 10:36 PM
Denis Irwell
 
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Unread 21-11-2023, 08:54 AM
magic_cantona
 
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Ukraine v Italy last night. Italy needed a draw to qualify, Ukraine needed to win. This happens, VAR check it and decide its not a penalty, Italy qualify

 
Unread 21-11-2023, 09:41 AM
Big Norm
 
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Ukraine v Italy last night. Italy needed a draw to qualify, Ukraine needed to win. This happens, VAR check it and decide its not a penalty, Italy qualify

https://twitter.com/ViaplaySportsUK/...qcGD4WiwQ&s=19
How have they not given that ffs?
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 09:48 AM
magic_cantona
 
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How have they not given that ffs?
Italy + VAR = Bent decisions AOTS.

VAR on its own is bad enough tbf.
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 09:53 AM
larry
 
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looks like he dived there tbf, stuck his foot in then rolled over 1,000 times. good effort, no pen.
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 11:42 AM
Sparky***
 
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Ukraine v Italy last night. Italy needed a draw to qualify, Ukraine needed to win. This happens, VAR check it and decide its not a penalty, Italy qualify

https://twitter.com/ViaplaySportsUK/...qcGD4WiwQ&s=19
Didnít the UEFA chief recently say it would be a tragedy if Italy didnít qualify?
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 12:08 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Didnít the UEFA chief recently say it would be a tragedy if Italy didnít qualify?
Yes he did. Said they WILL qualify
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 12:57 PM
naes_sean
 
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Yes he did. Said they WILL qualify
he was right
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 01:12 PM
wiganste
 
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looks like he dived there tbf, stuck his foot in then rolled over 1,000 times. good effort, no pen.
my thoughts too.

£#%&! Ukraine, if they showed any bottle and fight for the other 95 mins of the game, they may have won it. Something else Zinchenko can cry about
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 01:41 PM
magic_cantona
 
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he was right
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 04:06 PM
Sheik JaBooty
 
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Major league baseball just made a whole slew of changes to the fundamental structure of the game where the main motivator was fan enjoyment, not tv, managers, players etc and it's worked a treat. Games are shorter, less dead time, athleticism and action over exploitation of minute technical aspects.

Football is making a huge mistake if they think FIFA, UEFA, clubs, managers, refs, SKY and players are more important than fans. Bore people with VAR, and you'll ultimately kill the golden goose.
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 04:23 PM
wiganste
 
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Major league baseball just made a whole slew of changes to the fundamental structure of the game where the main motivator was fan enjoyment, not tv, managers, players etc and it's worked a treat. Games are shorter, less dead time, athleticism and action over exploitation of minute technical aspects.

Football is making a huge mistake if they think FIFA, UEFA, clubs, managers, refs, SKY and players are more important than fans. Bore people with VAR, and you'll ultimately kill the golden goose.
Yeah, that's all well and good but baseball is £#%&!ing £#%&!
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 04:29 PM
History
 
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Major league baseball just made a whole slew of changes to the fundamental structure of the game where the main motivator was fan enjoyment, not tv, managers, players etc and it's worked a treat. Games are shorter, less dead time, athleticism and action over exploitation of minute technical aspects.

Football is making a huge mistake if they think FIFA, UEFA, clubs, managers, refs, SKY and players are more important than fans. Bore people with VAR, and you'll ultimately kill the golden goose.
Feels like were past it anyway. It's all the new generation know.

Kids are not in playground now arguing over has the better free kick technique, Beckham, Roberto Carlos etc... Trying to score goals like Ronaldinho or Zidane

Instead, arguing who's the better player based on the most horrific stats. Xg, Goal contributions, citing things like low block, counter pressing.

Top level football is already consumed like a spreadsheet. It's gone so NFL and americanised. 'knows ball' get to £#%&!

VAR might probably be the final blow, but it was already on route.
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 04:32 PM
Fat Al
 
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Feels like were past it anyway. It's all the new generation know.

Kids are not in playground now arguing over has the better free kick technique, Beckham, Roberto Carlos etc... Trying to score goals like Ronaldinho or Zidane

Instead, arguing who's the better player based on the most horrific stats. Xg, Goal contributions, citing things like low block, counter pressing.

Top level football is already consumed like a spreadsheet. It's gone so NFL and americanised. 'knows ball' get to £#%&!

VAR might probably be the final blow, but it was already on route.
Or getting sent to the Headmaster for doing a 'Sammy Nelson' after scoring.
 
Unread 21-11-2023, 05:32 PM
Sheik JaBooty
 
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Yeah, that's all well and good but baseball is £#%&!ing £#%&!
Ok mate.

 
Unread 22-11-2023, 10:38 AM
wiganste
 
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I honestly don't know anyone who likes baseball

"Here Ste, fancy getting some cans and coming over to watch the big rounders game on ESPN?"

"Nah, you're alright you bender"
 
Unread 22-11-2023, 12:11 PM
Sheik JaBooty
 
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I honestly don't know anyone who likes baseball

"Here Ste, fancy getting some cans and coming over to watch the big rounders game on ESPN?"

"Nah, you're alright you bender"
Who the £#%&! said anything about liking it?

It's a sport, and one of the few that seems to give a shit about their supporters. I'm pretty sure that was the point.
 
Unread 22-11-2023, 12:18 PM
Time For Heroes
 
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Ukraine v Italy last night. Italy needed a draw to qualify, Ukraine needed to win. This happens, VAR check it and decide its not a penalty, Italy qualify

https://twitter.com/ViaplaySportsUK/...qcGD4WiwQ&s=19
I can see why that's not given there. Sure the defender clips him but he would never have got the ball, he kicks it to at least two defenders who were covering.
 
Unread 22-11-2023, 12:38 PM
Sheik JaBooty
 
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Adding another layer of subjective analysis to the equation does not increase the likelihood of getting the decision right it just adds another opinion into the mix which definitely DOES add to the confusion & frustration and subtracts from the enjoyment.

At least when it was just a ref and two linesmen we accepted that #@&%!-ups happen. Moan, yes, debate and make excuses, yes, but if we hadn't accepted it football wouldn't have become what it did, would it?

I blame Mark Hughes for VAR.
 
Unread 22-11-2023, 12:40 PM
RedNick80
 
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I honestly don't know anyone who likes baseball

"Here Ste, fancy getting some cans and coming over to watch the big rounders game on ESPN?"

"Nah, you're alright you bender"
I like baseball. Letís go Giants!

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