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Bottom line is that cups can be won by luck, or by one or two outstanding performances. In our case they can be lost with bad luck or one poor performance. Ole is in the job because he has lead us to back to back respectable league finishes for the first time since Fergie. My only fear is that our owners will be happy for us to be the new Arsenal and settle for that season after season. Progress must continue to be made. First half season -.cleaned up Jose's mess First full season - finished 3rd Second season - finished second and reached a cup final Third season - ??????? |
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Good news for Ole and you hope he is building something but the proof will be in the pudding. He’s got to win a trophy this season or he’ll be gone it’s as simple as that. Sancho is a great buy and hopefully Varane folows but people seem to have completely forgotten about the other issues we had last season that we papered over with a second place finish. If De Gea continues where he left off we’re £#%&!ed in nets and we still don’t have a reliable striker who can guarantee us 20+ goals and we still need a decent midfielder who can control the game. We’ve basically fixed two positions that didn’t need fixing . Apart from that I can’t wait for the season to start. |
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Had to sign him to a new deal before the season starts as you couldn’t have him go into the season as a lame duck manager with his contract up at the end of the season
That being said despite a lot of progress being made with the construction of this squad I still have big doubts over whether Ole and this coaching staff are good enough to get us back to winning the biggest prizes in football Not arsed about the fact he hasn’t one an FA cup like LvG for a league cup or Europa League like Jose as they’re not important achievements and are very minor trophies to a club of our stature Ole could win the FA cup, league cup and Europa League every season and if he performed poorly in the league and CL he’d rightly be sacked after 2 or 3 seasons because what really matters to a club like Utd is the league and CL Midfield is still an issue but if Varane comes then there is no excuse not to make a credible title challenge and do well in the CL this season |
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Tuchel in a few months had Chelsea tactically outwitting the champions of Spain, England and Real Madrid. There was very quickly a manager who stamped his identity and style of play on a team. There is no doubt they will sack him if they dont build on this cl success. That doesnt exactly disprove my initial point, but rather strengthens it. Some clubs are more ambitious than others. Quote:
This is a great community but a very small one. Large majority of United fans I know, both in England and abroad have huge questions mark on the manager and are very concerned that we are about to go to 10 years with no league title. 4 years no trophies now. We are spending more money than any other club so why is the club not succeeding? |
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Out of curiosity did he only manage to stamp his identity and style of play on the Chelsea team after the FA cup final? Or are you just gonna give it up and admit my earlier point, that cups can, and will, be won or lost by luck or one good or bad performance!? |
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They lost an fa cup final unluckily to Leicester due to VAR. Even in that loss you saw what kind of a team Tuchel is progressing Chelsea towards. This was proven further in the CL final against even better opposition where they did get the win. If you look back on our final loss to Villarreal it wasnt even the loss that was the issue. It was everything else going on in the match. Those problems aren't going away. But I understand why we had to be quick to hand him a 3 year deal instead of letting him prove himself next season after spending another fat wedge. There is after all many big clubs ready to snap up Ole if we dont give him a new deal. Very sought after manager! |
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Oh yeah, and you wrote they lost the cup final due to VAR, so like I said, cups can be won or lost on luck, give it up you £#%&!ing weirdo. |
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I wasn't comparing the chelsea cup final to ours, just making the point AGAIN that cups can be won or lost by luck or or one good or bad performance, something you continue to dance around. |
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