Manchester United v Liverpool 20/10/2019 - Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Lindelof is piss weak, nothing new there.

He doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. Too often wrong side, too often losing out in the air, too hesitant and uncertain. I don’t think it’s about form so much as flaws.

Originally Posted by Switching Off

https://twitter.com/paul_tomkins/sta...561265158?s=19

What a load of £#%&!ing shite. Shame on people who call racism just to bolster an incorrect opinion.

Originally Posted by Billy Redface

We have been on our arse for weeks. Calls for the managers head and genuine shouted that we will be relegated!

We go into a game against a team that has won 17 £#%&!ing league game in a row, become the first side to take points off them since Everton in March and people are complaining about how we handled the last ten minutes

There's enough issues and bad times, we might as well acknowledge some positive aspects when they appear.

We matched the best team in the country at the moment. That is something to build on.

They raised themselves for a one off game (32% possession at home ffs). Much like teams used to do against us. The same shit players that have been shit for a long time have not suddenly become good.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

I don’t have to come round pal, I know where we’re at. We’re in a very delicate position with a poor squad, fragile confidence, a dysfunctional structure throughout the club and an inexperienced manager.

It’s a challenging mix. Incessantly moaning about it might make you feel better, because that’s how you deal with your personal anxiety, but projecting it on everyone that will listen/can read 24 £#%&!ing 7 feels like a @#%&!s trick.

The club isn’t a good place and truthfully hasn’t been since 2005. It can be managed though and we can be successful under this regime - it’s just very difficult. And importantly, we can do £#%&! all about it.

Performing well against a top team for the majority of the match is a step forward. Players playing with a bit of confidence again is a step forward. This is the time for supporters to support and I think part of that is being a bit £#%&!ing balanced - today was ok, better than expected, certainly not something that should make us suicidal.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Oh £#%&! off with that sanctimonious RAWK crap.

It’s an internet forum and I’ll call shit when I see shit.

I’m not here to score top red points with a bunch of faceless usernames

It’s odd. I don’t get the need to be on message with the PR like we’re part of the club and have to present a united front. We’re a bunch of no mark spectators chatting shit on the internet so what’s wrong with giving an honest opinion even if it’s negative?

Originally Posted by Hands of Scone

It’s odd. I don’t get the need to be on message with the PR like we’re part of the club and have to present a united front. We’re a bunch of no mark spectators chatting shit on the internet so what’s wrong with giving an honest opinion even if it’s negative?

Absolutely nothing; unless it’s become an addiction.

Originally Posted by Billy Redface

You thought we were shit when we were winning the league.

Never mind that, I remember his posts when we were winning the CL

Love you really, Sparkles ;-)

Thought Daniel James was great today, ran his arse off,took a couple of wacks and set up the goal.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Never mind that, I remember his posts when we were winning the CL

Remember a fair few ‘Fergie outs’ too.

Originally Posted by utd99

He doesn’t instill a lot of confidence. Too often wrong side, too often losing out in the air, too hesitant and uncertain. I don’t think it’s about form so much as flaws.

There are times when he can look really good, generally when the team is going well, not a player for a crisis or when under heavy pressure though, goes passive, expects his partners to take on all the tough defending and to sweep up. He doesn't make many obvious mistakes, because he rarely forces the issue defensively.

His aggression for the Rashford goal was encouraging but then for that Mane disallowed one, that was pitiful, at any level of football. Without a bit of dog in him I don't see how he is a long term starter.

Originally Posted by Sloppy

Thought Daniel James was great today, ran his arse off,took a couple of wacks and set up the goal.

He thought about doing the knocked out routine again too.

In fairness, he did get cleaned out.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Oh £#%&! off with that sanctimonious RAWK crap.

It’s an internet forum and I’ll call shit when I see shit.

I’m not here to score top red points with a bunch of faceless usernames

Yeah, but you never see anything but shit.

Originally Posted by utd99

He thought about doing the knocked out routine again too.

In fairness, he did get cleaned out.

One of the few straight positives from this season thus far, nqat.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

There are times when he can look really good, generally when the team is going well, not a player for a crisis or when under heavy pressure though, goes passive, expects his partners to take on all the tough defending and to sweep up. He doesn't make many obvious mistakes, because he rarely forces the issue defensively.

His aggression for the Rashford goal was encouraging but then for that Mane disallowed one, that was pitiful, at any level of football. Without a bit of dog in him I don't see how he is a long term starter.

Me either. He was wrong side -again- and randomly stopped during that Mane moment too. So £#%&!ing odd.

Originally Posted by Hands of Scone

It’s odd. I don’t get the need to be on message with the PR like we’re part of the club and have to present a united front. We’re a bunch of no mark spectators chatting shit on the internet so what’s wrong with giving an honest opinion even if it’s negative?

What? I simply said that he should be balanced? Are you saying sparky isn’t relentlessly negative?

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

Whats rawkish about my post? s.

"it's time for the supporters to support"

do me a £#%&!ing favour

which basically has absolutely no relevance on an internet message board.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

There are times when he can look really good, generally when the team is going well, not a player for a crisis or when under heavy pressure though, goes passive, expects his partners to take on all the tough defending and to sweep up. He doesn't make many obvious mistakes, because he rarely forces the issue defensively.

His aggression for the Rashford goal was encouraging but then for that Mane disallowed one, that was pitiful, at any level of football. Without a bit of dog in him I don't see how he is a long term starter.

He's too weak in the air and too weak on the floor. He's not particularly great on the ball. I think he's got a decent defensive brain, but physically he seems to struggle.

Thought quite highly of him last year, but having someone like Maguire next to him seems to be highlighting his weaknesses.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

"it's time for the supporters to support"

do me a £#%&!ing favour

which basically has absolutely no relevance on an internet message board.

Well I do find it £#%&!ing laughable that supporters on here and twitter are already demanding the ole gets bulleted because getting our 5th manager in 6 years is really going to change the world.

I think we need patience and to get behind the manager. There maybe a time when it’s right for him to go but I honestly don’t think it’s 3 months into a new season. Sorry if that’s too rawkish for you.

Originally Posted by Patty_b

He's too weak in the air and too weak on the floor. He's not particularly great on the ball. I think he's got a decent defensive brain, but physically he seems to struggle.

Thought quite highly of him last year, but having someone like Maguire next to him seems to be highlighting his weaknesses.

Maguire has been solid enough, not the best at anticipating mistakes from his colleagues but strong in the air and composed if not particularly constructive on the ball. Sitting deep at a team and a much better defensive work-rate rate ahead of him has made it a simpler job than last year at CB.

Lindelof is not getting an easy ride from the fans. Last year it was too easy to absolve him of fault and just blame it all on Smalling and Jones. Don't have those easy scapegoats this year, now he he is being analyzed at a truer level. Smalling for all his flaws is a better defender than Lindelof and it is really not that close.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

What? I simply said that he should be balanced? Are you saying sparky isn’t relentlessly negative?

He is negative but so what? Why should he balanced? It’s just his opinion.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

Well I do find it £#%&!ing laughable that supporters on here and twitter are already demanding the ole gets bulleted because getting our 5th manager in 6 years is really going to change the world.

I think we need patience and to get behind the manager. There maybe a time when it’s right for him to go but I honestly don’t think it’s 3 months into a new season. Sorry if that’s too rawkish for you.

where have i said I wanted the manager binned? I don't.

But he will get sacked though.