Keano - Fergie's new No 2 ?

Originally Posted by Firswood Red

thought you were a manc?

I am mate.

I played for a team in Manchester. There is a GFAA in Manchester.

Used to play on Hough End and Turf Moor

Can't see it happening. I'm sure Fergie's been on to him and most football people seem to been very sympathetic to what's happened. Brucie for instance said he'll deffo be back and the general concensus is that he shouldn't have left and it was down to the lack of a stabilising, mature number two pointing out that Sunderland weren't doing as badly as doom monger Roy thought.

I think, if he had shaved more often he'd still be there. Depressing looking beard that. They were only four points off tenth spot.

Fergie's not sure he'll be back :-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/7766818.stm

Ferguson unsure over Keane return


Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson doubts whether Roy Keane will ever return to football management.

Keane resigned as Sunderland manager on Thursday after 27 months in charge of the Black Cats and his future in the game remains unclear.

"It is difficult to say whether he will be back," said Ferguson.

"He is an incredibly controversial character. Every week he always had something to say about the game. He was the same as a player."

Ferguson added: "He is such an interesting character and did a decent job up there."

Keane, who had spent more than £70m on 33 players since 2006, guided the club into the Premier League during his first season as manager before keeping them there last term.

And despite recent results, which have seen Sunderland win just one of their past seven games, the Black Cats are still in a better position this year than they were at the same stage at last season.

Former team-mate and now Manchester City boss Mark Hughes believes Keane's exit may have come as a result of not taking a decent break between finishing his playing career and taking over as manager at a club.

The 37-year-old Irishman went to Sunderland almost immediately after injury finished his playing career at Celtic.

Hughes began his managerial career immediately after finishing playing but believes he was helped by the fact that his first role was as Wales boss, with the intermittent nature of the international calendar giving him time away from the game.

"You sensed in recent weeks that maybe there was a point where he was going to consider his future and walk away," said Hughes.

"He is still young and still has a future in the game, if he wants to return there is plenty of time for him to do so.

"Maybe he went from being a player to a manager too quickly.

"I think it is important to have a bit of breathing space once you stop playing and although I went straight into management it was with Wales so I still had a bit of time off. I don't think Roy had that benefit.

"He needs to take a step back, learn from the experience and go again."

However, Ferguson believes the problem is more deep rooted than that, with the pressures of management taking a greater toll than ever.

"There are very few managers that last more than three to four years at a club nowadays and the lifespan of a manager at a club is getting shorter and shorter," he said.

"They can move on to different challenges, but it's a very precarious industry nowadays and a very emotional game.

"A couple of years ago, people were saying that I should have gone four years earlier - the black flags were out!

"Football people like myself are fortunate to have been at a club for so long, though. I haven't had to go through that emotional situation."

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

I am mate.

I played for a team in Manchester. There is a GFAA in Manchester.

Used to play on Hough End and Turf Moor

Turf Moor Turn Moss

who did you play for? Brendan's, Oisin's or Lawrences?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Fergie's not sure he'll be back :-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/7766818.stm

Ferguson unsure over Keane return


Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson doubts whether Roy Keane will ever return to football management.

Keane resigned as Sunderland manager on Thursday after 27 months in charge of the Black Cats and his future in the game remains unclear.

"It is difficult to say whether he will be back," said Ferguson.

"He is an incredibly controversial character. Every week he always had something to say about the game. He was the same as a player."

Ferguson added: "He is such an interesting character and did a decent job up there."

Keane, who had spent more than £70m on 33 players since 2006, guided the club into the Premier League during his first season as manager before keeping them there last term.

And despite recent results, which have seen Sunderland win just one of their past seven games, the Black Cats are still in a better position this year than they were at the same stage at last season.

Former team-mate and now Manchester City boss Mark Hughes believes Keane's exit may have come as a result of not taking a decent break between finishing his playing career and taking over as manager at a club.

The 37-year-old Irishman went to Sunderland almost immediately after injury finished his playing career at Celtic.

Hughes began his managerial career immediately after finishing playing but believes he was helped by the fact that his first role was as Wales boss, with the intermittent nature of the international calendar giving him time away from the game.

"You sensed in recent weeks that maybe there was a point where he was going to consider his future and walk away," said Hughes.

"He is still young and still has a future in the game, if he wants to return there is plenty of time for him to do so.

"Maybe he went from being a player to a manager too quickly.

"I think it is important to have a bit of breathing space once you stop playing and although I went straight into management it was with Wales so I still had a bit of time off. I don't think Roy had that benefit.

"He needs to take a step back, learn from the experience and go again."

However, Ferguson believes the problem is more deep rooted than that, with the pressures of management taking a greater toll than ever.

"There are very few managers that last more than three to four years at a club nowadays and the lifespan of a manager at a club is getting shorter and shorter," he said.

"They can move on to different challenges, but it's a very precarious industry nowadays and a very emotional game.

"A couple of years ago, people were saying that I should have gone four years earlier - the black flags were out!

"Football people like myself are fortunate to have been at a club for so long, though. I haven't had to go through that emotional situation."

Maybe the international route would be the best way. Maybe Trap/Brady could give him a call though I think Roy may see anything like that as a step backwards and might just never come back.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

"A couple of years ago, people were saying that I should have gone four years earlier - the black flags were out!"

didn't realise the bedsheet was so dirty tbh. £#%&!ing disgusting, that is.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

Sniffles and Jablers sound like two ex lovers. And it's obvious Bedhog did the dumping.

But what with those constantly changing opinions and all, he's clearly changed his mind and wants him back!

Originally Posted by armchair

Maybe the international route would be the best way. Maybe Trap/Brady could give him a call though I think Roy may see anything like that as a step backwards and might just never come back.

Does seem to be the way former big names are dipping their toes in the management game.

Still got Burnley on the brain ffs!

Turn Moss -

Did you play?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Does seem to be the way former big names are dipping their toes in the management game.

I was surprised at the coverage this whole thing got and the groundswell of genuine admiration he seems to have in the game. Newsnight finished with a montage of Keane through the years, most knowledgeable talking heads seem to think he shouldn't have gone etc.

I think maybe we have a few hysterical anti-keane* people on here who out shout the majority.

Keane's bio is the biggest selling book of all time in Ireland!

*in fact anti-whoever.

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

Still got Burnley on the brain ffs!

Turn Moss -

Did you play?

i do mate

play for Brendans

Originally Posted by armchair

I was surprised at the coverage this whole thing got and the groundswell of genuine admiration he seems to have in the game. Newsnight finished with a montage of Keane through the years, most knowledgeable talking heads seem to think he shouldn't have gone etc.

I think maybe we have a few hysterical anti-keane* people on here who out shout the majority.

Keane's bio is the biggest selling book of all time in Ireland!

*in fact anti-whoever.

Keane's bio is a great read. The way he left United left a little bit of a sour taste but he was a great player for us. I think it's a shame that he takes everything so personally, think he had a chance of being a very good manager but this is just gonna stop that.

Originally Posted by armchair

I was surprised at the coverage this whole thing got and the groundswell of genuine admiration he seems to have in the game. Newsnight finished with a montage of Keane through the years, most knowledgeable talking heads seem to think he shouldn't have gone etc.

I think maybe we have a few hysterical anti-keane* people on here who out shout the majority.

Keane's bio is the biggest selling book of all time in Ireland!

*in fact anti-whoever.

all the city fans I know have more respect for Keane than a lot of the lads on here.

Don't know any reds who dislike Keane except for the few on here, along with Eric easily the most popular of the players we've had.

Own worst enemy. The big thing that got mentioned is how Phil Brown has Brian Horton as assistant whereas Keane had a totally inexperienced pal in. Horton has been through it and can see the forest for the trees as it were whereas it seems Keane just saw the void and had no one tell level out his depression.

theres more chance me being number 2

Originally Posted by armchair

Own worst enemy. The big thing that got mentioned is how Phil Brown has Brian Horton as assistant whereas Keane had a totally inexperienced pal in. Horton has been through it and can see the forest for the trees as it were whereas it seems Keane just saw the void and had no one tell level out his depression.

So many GMR phone ins used to just consist of bitters saying angrily "I wanna talk about Brian Horton!!!". Great days.

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

Keane was never really one of the lads so to speak, he's said so himself in the past. He doesn't socialise with the players nor was he ever really involved in some of the training ground humour.

Not really true that. It might be fair to say that about his later years, the game changed and so did Keano, to prolong his career. But for much of the 90s he definitely was one of the boys, he's said many times how he missed the drinking sessions with Robbo, Brucie etc.


Anyway, Keane as an assistant anything has disaster written all over it. One of the worst ideas I've ever seen floated on here tbh.

Originally Posted by Ether

Anyway, Keane as an assistant anything has disaster written all over it. One of the worst ideas I've ever seen floated on here tbh.

Have to agree, not necessarily because of his character or temperament, but mainly because it's hard to see what he'd actually bring to the club. Queiroz provided innovative training methods and match preparation, tactical astuteness and language skills. He seemed to offer a fantastic balance to Fergie. It's hard to think of any qualities Keane possesses which Fergie doesn't already have, either himself or already on the coaching staff.

"It is difficult to say whether he will be back," said Ferguson.

seriously, what is the £#%&!ing point of using that remark to generate a headline?


vide:

Ferguson doubts Keane return

what a crock of shit

Originally Posted by Ether

Not really true that. It might be fair to say that about his later years, the game changed and so did Keano, to prolong his career. But for much of the 90s he definitely was one of the boys, he's said many times how he missed the drinking sessions with Robbo, Brucie etc.

Anyway, Keane as an assistant anything has disaster written all over it. One of the worst ideas I've ever seen floated on here tbh.

Perhaps when he first moved from Forest mate but he wasn't a regular at those parties by any means.

I know Charlotte Robson (Robbo's daughter) pretty well and it was always Bruce and Pally knocking about on those piss ups. Keane was involved a bit in his early years but as far as I'v heard from one or two good sources, as well as what I'v seen, he wasn't involved as much. It's no big deal is it. Eric never used to bother that much either. People like Giggs, Ole, Butt etc always say Keane was up for the craic the odd time but he was captain first, one of the lads second from his mid to late twenties onwards.

Anyway it's a moot point. As you mention it is a disastrous idea.

Great player, one of the best in fact, great captain but an assistant Roy Keane is not.