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Unread 10-09-2023, 02:23 PM
My Name is Heath
 
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With you on all of those lads. Except Grealish


I mean AWB doesnít annoy me, Martinez is an aggressive defender but know little about him as a man.

Oh - I like Lindelof

Dalot? Mount? Bruno? Our rapey attackers?

Would you really want to be in the trenches with them?
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 03:44 PM
jem
 
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Pellistri RW then
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 03:57 PM
Sparky***
 
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The club has now shown they basically make critical team decisions based off perceived public opinion

they have set a very very dangerous precedent.

The greenwood stuff was different, the evidence was out there, there was no debate about that. This is entirely wrong, the club should have stood behind the player until any charges were forthcoming and continued to allow him to play.

Where do we draw the line here? Is it simply accusations of violence against women and they're dropped or is it any kind of violence? Speeding tickets? Drink driving? The club have handled this and the Greenwood situation absolutely abysmally.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 03:59 PM
armchair
 
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The club has now shown they basically make critical team decisions based off perceived public opinion

they have set a very very dangerous precedent.

The greenwood stuff was different, the evidence was out there, there was no debate about that. This is entirely wrong, the club should have stood behind the player until any charges were forthcoming and continued to allow him to play.

Where do we draw the line here? Is it simply accusations of violence against women and they're dropped or is it any kind of violence? Speeding tickets? Drink driving? The club have handled this and the Greenwood situation absolutely abysmally.
No, there was a debate but one side decided not to listen to the other as they were so convinced of being in the right.

And this is the direct consequence of that. We decided the court of public opinion was making the important decisions.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:01 PM
Sparky***
 
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No, there was a debate but one side decided not to listen to the other as they were so convinced of being in the right.

And this is the direct consequence of that. We decided the court of public opinion was making the important decisions.
Correct. I agree
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:03 PM
believe
 
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The club has now shown they basically make critical team decisions based off perceived public opinion

they have set a very very dangerous precedent.

The greenwood stuff was different, the evidence was out there, there was no debate about that. This is entirely wrong, the club should have stood behind the player until any charges were forthcoming and continued to allow him to play.

Where do we draw the line here? Is it simply accusations of violence against women and they're dropped or is it any kind of violence? Speeding tickets? Drink driving? The club have handled this and the Greenwood situation absolutely abysmally.
I think youíre simplifying this case a little bit tbh. Thereís no way heís stayed in Brazil and United have gone along with it just because Antony fancied the craic and wanted to have a word with his missus.

I actually hope Iím very wrong but I think weíre about to hear some pretty dark shit and Iíd be very surprised if this is resolved in ours or Antonyís favour. Thereís far too much smoke imo.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:05 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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I think youíre simplifying this case a little bit tbh. Thereís no way heís stayed in Brazil and United have gone along with it just because Antony fancied the craic and wanted to have a word with his missus.

I actually hope Iím very wrong but I think weíre about to hear some pretty dark shit and Iíd be very surprised if this is resolved in ours or Antonyís favour. Thereís far too much smoke imo.
FFS mate !! Was trying to stay positive.....
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:07 PM
believe
 
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FFS mate !! Was trying to stay positive.....
Iíve got a funny feeling that forest game might have been the peak this season.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:07 PM
larry
 
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I actually hope Iím very wrong
you have been about everything else tbf
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:11 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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Iíve got a funny feeling that forest game might have been the peak this season.
Peak banter ? Wait till he doesn't come back and we're sticking mount in there 4 down against Liverpool at home...

He's surely got to attend local interviews and criminal proceedings so hopes it can be done quickly in country then fly back in a few weeks or so..
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:11 PM
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Brazilian police definitely extorting him, but heís not willing to give in to the pressure. You know how these things go. Probably in a cell right now being waterboarded while they demand 500,000 reais.

Free Antony
21 hours in captivity
Shoes too small to fit his feet
His body abused but his mind is still free
Are you so blind that you cannot see? I said
Free Antony, I'm begging you
Free Antony
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:13 PM
armchair
 
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Standard influencer extortion.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:13 PM
AK14
 
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This is getting ridiculous now.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:16 PM
believe
 
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Antony being water boarded

ďDid you rape her?Ē Shows him towel and bucket of water


ďYesĒ
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:19 PM
Hyman_Roth
 
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Brazilian police definitely extorting him, but heís not willing to give in to the pressure. You know how these things go. Probably in a cell right now being waterboarded while they demand 500,000 reais.

Free Antony
21 hours in captivity
Shoes too small to fit his feet
His body abused but his mind is still free
Are you so blind that you cannot see? I said
Free Antony, I'm begging you
Free Antony
The ĎAntonyí bit is really not scanning at all. It needs to be 5 syllables to sync with the original and itís only 3. You canít even stretch them easily to make it fit.

ĎTony dos Santosí works better but no one really knows who that is.

Iíve tried but I just think it probably best if this is not pursued.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:20 PM
NedKelly
 
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The ĎAntonyí bit is really not scanning at all. It needs to be 5 syllables to sync with the original and itís only 3. You canít even stretch them easily to make it fit.

ĎTony dos Santosí works better but no one really knows who that is.

Iíve tried but I just think it probably best if this is not pursued.
Itís not about the syllables, itís about the message.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:21 PM
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according to Daniel Taylor of the guardian, at one point last season there were 6 different PL clubs who had players under police investigation for rape/violence against women.

only seems to be united where it becomes public knowledge and prevents the player continuing to play..
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:27 PM
armchair
 
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according to Daniel Taylor of the guardian, at one point last season there were 6 different PL clubs who had players under police investigation for rape/violence against women.

only seems to be united where it becomes public knowledge and prevents the player continuing to play..
We shouldn't even be suspending players for being accused of something. I can understand it if the player doesn't want to play/train because there is a lot going on but otherwise they are innocent in the eyes of the law and should be allowed go on with their professional and private lives.
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:32 PM
believe
 
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We shouldn't even be suspending players for being accused of something. I can understand it if the player doesn't want to play/train because there is a lot going on but otherwise they are innocent in the eyes of the law and should be allowed go on with their professional and private lives.
Surely thereís a level that has to be reached before it becomes public knowledge. Knowing the state of footballers and the general society that associates itself I wouldnít be surprised if this isnít happening every week.

Itís not like weíre the only club whoíve had to deal with it recently I guess weíve just got two examples whoíve gone passed the threshold of ďoh ffs how much do you want to keep quiet?Ē
 
Unread 10-09-2023, 04:32 PM
Sparky***
 
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according to Daniel Taylor of the guardian, at one point last season there were 6 different PL clubs who had players under police investigation for rape/violence against women.

only seems to be united where it becomes public knowledge and prevents the player continuing to play..
Thatís Unitedís fault. They made a rod for their own back by allowing public opinion to affect their decisions. We canít complain because other teams donít have such weak leadership.
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