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interesting article about united's tactics (interview with rio)
'cept it's all obviously made up cos rio's thick and fergie's tactically inept
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He isnt liked.... Put it that way.... they cal him sicknote............. |
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rio is definitely smarter than the average player, but this stuff is hardly rocket science. when we play one up front with two wide, we rely more on counter attacking? well I never.
and he also says: 'So I don't think the manager's really bothered about formations. He just puts it out there and knows the players can deal with it.' either it matters or it doesn't. personally, i think too much is made of it. I know you feel somehow vindicated about fergie's tactical acumen by the CL final borsuk (ignoring the many years of one up front that got us nowhere) and have mentioned it half a dozen times since, but you really are grasping at straws with this one. Much more interesting in this article were the references to john fashanu. what's going on there then? |
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actually, the interesting bit of the article, for me, is rio - his public image is so different from reality, i think: fairly smart guy and involved in some good causes. shame every second interview thinks the most interesting thing about him is that he likes hip hop. the saha thing is interesting as well, confirming that we've been playing for a couple of seasons without a key player, which makes the achievements of the last two years all the more impressive. that would also suggest that getting a striker in really is a priority, though who would bring the same blend of pace and power as saha... |
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Go on then, here it comes.
If Fergie's this tactical genius you're making him out to be, how did he get it so wrong just 5 games or so earlier? Quote:
What would have happened if Chelsea hadn't been an English side and given us the luxury of playing against them a few weeks earlier? I'm guessing that we would have used the tactics we did at Stamford Bridge and got beat. We're both selecting parts of that interview that suit our viewpoint. The reality probably lies somewhere inbetween. Fergie's getting better at his tactics, the team is very strong and can make up for some tactical mistakes. We'll never know the truth probably. |
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the quality of fergie's tactics is evidenced by decades of success and the respect of every single coach worth his salt in world football. as i said above re the champs league final, it's not something you judge on one game, successful or not. trial and error. ffs. |
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sniffer, you really need to look at the 2-0 game at OT last season.
and it's not trial and error ffs, we played Chelsea 6 times over the last 2 seasons and they only won 1 of them - thanks to a very soft late penalty. United were the better team in Moscow, easily creating the better chances. Chelsea were powerful in the 2nd half, but United's stamina and strength of character proved more than a match for them over 120 minutes plus penalties. I totally agree that variation in tactics is the key to United's success - given that we have such a degree of excellence running right through the football club. Perhaps Bilic is being taken a bit too literally? Tactics are about so much more than formations, after all. |
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Our tactics were so good we were able to coast for the last 3 matches and go into the European Cup final with a fully fit and fresh squad. hence we were the better team in Moscow and deservedly won the Cup, albeit by means of the most unsatisfactory of conclusions. As I said anyway, the tactics used by United in the 2-0 game were very similar to those used in Moscow, which may have something to do with the fact that there was only one change to the starting line-up. |
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And the Chelsea 2-1 game was very tight, a dodgy penalty and 2 off the line in the last few minutes changed the whole match. Fergies tactics should nullify luck, dodgy decisions, injuries, weather conditions. Really he should be able to send out 10 rubbish bins and O'Shea and if he is a great tactician Utd should still win. No-one can be perfect, but he has given us incredible success, perhaps Utd could have won another CL with the 99 squad, but it is a difficult trophy to win. |
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