Todays Sunday Supplement....

Originally Posted by dunk

I don't. I just think the pundits have a point on Rooney yesterday, he bought that penalty, could easily have stayed on his feet. United fans see their arse at somebody claiming Rooney bought the pen. But in the same breath will criticise Gerrard for the same thing.I only brought the Evra one from last season up because it is an example of Gerrard starting to fall long before the challenge connects with him, as Rooney did yesterday.

I can see what the pundits are saying is my point.

your talking shite. it was a penalty all day long.

nft.

Originally Posted by El Chalten

your talking shite. it was a penalty all day long.

nft.

It was a penalty, I don't think I said it wasn't

Originally Posted by dunk

rooney was falling over long before the keeper got anywhere near him. I have seen people cursing gerrard on here for exactly the same thing.

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Originally Posted by El Chalten

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That's not saying it wasn't a penalty.

Originally Posted by dunk

That's not saying it wasn't a penalty.

So you are just arguing for the sake of it?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

So you are just arguing for the sake of it?

£#%&!ing yeah, problem?

Originally Posted by waynes ear's

£#%&!ing yeah, problem?

Nope.

Rooney did it a few years ago against Arsenal. Big Campbell never touched him in the 50 and out game and Ruud scored the pen iirc correctly.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

So you are just arguing for the sake of it?

Pretty much.

I'm in a foul mood this morning, not sure why either.

To me, it looks to be a blatant dive. Rooney clearly starts to fall and drag his left foot on the turf before he makes any contact with Almunia. So his intentions here were no different to Eduardo's. The only distinction between the two incidents was Almunia's rashness. As such, I'm not sure whether this is a penalty. Almunia does make contact, but Rooney is already falling before this happens. If diving is an offence according to the laws of the game, then since the dive took place before the keeper made contact, doesn't this mean that it should be a free-kick to Arsenal? After all, the penalty incident occurred after the play should've been stopped, no?

I really don't know

Originally Posted by Serenity Now

To me, it looks to be a blatant dive. Rooney clearly starts to fall and drag his left foot on the turf before he makes any contact with Almunia. So his intentions here were no different to Eduardo's. The only distinction between the two incidents was Almunia's rashness. As such, I'm not sure whether this is a penalty. Almunia does make contact, but Rooney is already falling before this happens. If diving is an offence according to the laws of the game, then since the dive took place before the keeper made contact, doesn't this mean that it should be a free-kick to Arsenal? After all, the penalty incident occurred after the play should've been stopped, no?

I really don't know

Wrong.

Originally Posted by shenwen

you've said this twice now but we're talking fractions of a second. in real time you couldn't notice it at all. and it doesn't take away from the fact he was clattered by the keeper, which is a penalty. can't be argued with.

more annoying though are the morons saying it shouldn't count as he had already kicked the ball away. no understanding of football whatsoever.

Was a pen every day of the week! That pic though shows that he was already on his way down.

Wenger kicking off about it is just his way of taking the heat off Eduardo!

Why are the press not banging-on about that shameless @#%&! Eboue!

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Wrong.

"Any simulating action anywhere on the field, which is intended to deceive the referee, must be sanctioned as unsporting behaviour."

Rooney begins to fall, and drags his left foot, before Almunia makes contact. Is he not, then, intending to deceive the referee?

Originally Posted by Serenity Now

"Any simulating action anywhere on the field, which is intended to deceive the referee, must be sanctioned as unsporting behaviour."

Rooney begins to fall, and drags his left foot, before Almunia makes contact. Is he not, then, intending to deceive the referee?

I'm sorry I'm sure I read your post and it said it was a blatant dive?

He certainly took the contact that Almunia so generously and rashly offered but to call it a blatant dive in my opinion is just wrong.

Originally Posted by Mao's Favourite Starling

Was a pen every day of the week! That pic though shows that he was already on his way down.

Wenger kicking off about it is just his way of taking the heat off Eduardo!

Why are the press not banging-on about that shameless @#%&! Eboue!

You're right, dagnammit!

Right!

Right I tells you!

Did almunia get the ball? no.

Did he take the man? yes.

Penalty.

Case closed.

Next.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Did almunia get the ball? no.

Did he take the man? yes.

Penalty.

Case closed.

Next.

Chicken or the egg?

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Did almunia get the ball? no.

Did he take the man? yes.

Penalty.

Case closed.

Next.

Apparantly some think it was Rooney's responsibility to get out of the way of Almunia's rash challenge?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

I'm sorry I'm sure I read your post and it said it was a blatant dive?

He certainly took the contact that Almunia so generously and rashly offered but to call it a blatant dive in my opinion is just wrong.

If he starts to fall before Almunia makes contact, and he quite clearly does, then it's a dive. I fail to see how this is fundamentally different to the Eduardo incident. The intent is exactly the same.

Originally Posted by Serenity Now

If he starts to fall before Almunia makes contact, and he quite clearly does, then it's a dive. I fail to see how this is fundamentally different to the Eduardo incident. The intent is exactly the same.

It isn't, there was no contact in the Eduardo incident, he went over fresh air, Rooney went over Almunia. Your split second judgement of exactly when you think Rooney, at pace strated to go down, or his reason for doing so doesn't change this. That penalty happens time and time again in all football the world ove and there is no controversy, I have no understanding why you'd want to brand Rooney a cheat for it when pretty much the entire football world agrees that it was a penalty?