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Maybe subsequent managers employ a more flexible tactical approach? Under Mou I saw no plan. Under Ole I think I see a counter attacking plan but with more of the ball at times? No idea tbh. When it's working, nobody cares about the strategy. When it ain't working, we look aimless, and everyone is rightly up in arms. |
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Yesterday could have been one of those awful dross performances served up under Jose. Two managers with different styles, same shite outcome. I'd hate to be see Ole sacked. I don't agree that he doesn't know what he's doing. He learned from the best of the best, he's got all his coaching badges and he did things with Molde that no-one has come close to doing before him. I'm sure he knows how to set up a football team. And then if he is sacked, we would then have a squad made up of players bought by 5 different managers, four them sacked within two and a half years at the club, and a board reluctant to spend any more money without making it back on the shite we have first. Who the £#%&! do we expect to get in to take charge of that sinking shit-fest Even if we had a choice of any manager in the world, who do we get? Loads of United fans wanted Zidane last season ffs. £#%&! right off. Maybe we get a manager who has won the Champions League once or twice? Well we've done that twice and then celebrated their inevitable sacking with enthusiasm after a couple of years. Maybe a manager who has proved themselves by over-achieving in the Premier League with a shit squad? No thanks. Maybe someone like Eddie Howe. But if Ole's lack of experience is a massive issue, then what the £#%&! has this @#%&! achieved? Only got his coaching badges and experience at Bournemouth ffs. Maybe tempt Poch, the massive Argentine cry baby, to take the reigns. Although he's managed to take a better squad to below us in the table, so £#%&! him. Stick with Ole I reckon, even if the board don't. |
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The players used to ignore van gaal’s attempts to improve them. Mourinho used to have shouting matches with Pogba because he wouldn’t do what he was told on the pitch. This is the battle any manager has to win before the football improves as we want. The only way to do that is exactly what ole is doing. Getting rid of the bad attitudes and bringing in quality players with good ones. We have to take the hit and be patient until that has been done. Otherwise it will never be sorted and we’ll be stuck on this perpetual 2 year managerial cycle with each one looking for short term fixes as the players rule the roost. Anyone who thinks a big name manager like Allegri will make a difference is deluding themselves. Quote:
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The fans are already repeating the pattern of behaviour with ole that they have done for every single manager since fergie. And no doubt for every manager we will get in future as we go around in circles. The fans are every bit as toxic as the players and owners. Spoilt, fickle and entitled. |
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Van gaal cleared the decks. He also added back a heap load of new shit. His signings addressed zero weaknesses they were bought to address. |
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With the way the club is run it’s far more likely the owners are balancing the books because we missed out on the champions league. That’s not having a pop at Ole, it’s being realistic. |
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I think giving out new contracts rather than letting them run out are a club policy regardless of manager, and they’re not signing as many players as he wanted, but I I doubt the club are signing or getting rid of players against his will. I have no doubt ole has final say on who comes and goes, even if he’s hampered by not being able to sign or get rid of as many as he’d like, as quickly as he’d like. |
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The only things we've seen similar to this over the last 35 years are:
1) When Fergie took over in '86, briefly steadied the place and we finished 2nd in his first full season in '88. However he then got down to the business of stripping out the squad of all the old heads and we quickly plummeted down the table. Finished 11th in 1989 and then 13th in 1990, Just 5 points clear of relegation where you saw the now infamous "3 years and it's still crap tara" flag..FA cup win saved his job. 2) When Van Gaal came in post moyes and stripped away all the old guard leaving us in a similar state squad-wise as we are now. He finished 5th, won the FA Cup but was still binned off halfway through. It's shit but the club really have to ride this one out and back the manager. We can't keep starting over every other year. It's gonna take 2-3 years to sort this and it needs to be done now. |
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This season is almost identical in it's set up to LvG's second season imo. Difference being our two most hated rivals are ripping the £#%&! out of it and making our current position all the more stark. Have to leave Ole with it. It's still early days in his tenure, he's still wrestling with the cauldron of shit that is the squad he inherited and needs to be given time to grow with it and change the squad. |