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They've always been like that. Remember how they would go all misty-eyed about their famous 2009 team, which won absolutely £#%&! all?
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Fergie is clear no 1 and Pep clear No 2 IMO. Wenger and Jose interchangeable. Then Klopp.
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Saw some montage on Twitter of their 2018/19 season, asking “is this the best side the league ever saw” - they didn’t even win the league that season 😂
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Jose was similar at Chelsea, but he still operated in a more competitive league (imo) and at least he won the CL with Porto, which is an astonishing achievement no matter which way you look at it. Guardiola only managed to win the CL prior to last year with a Barcelona team that had Messi, Puyol, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, among others. PL era top managers - 1) Sir Alex 2) Wenger 3) Big Sam 4) Jose 5) Guardiola |
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wenger inherited graham's defence and wasn't even responsible for buying bergkamp. var would have taken their titles and the invincible tag.
mourinho can £#%&! off. even with two first teams, the cheating, shit football and histionics rule him out. he's just a toxic version of pep with no football philosophy. fergie, van gaal, pep.... in that order. |
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City only other team apart from us to dominate an era in the last 30 years (*) |
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Mourinho won trophies at numerous clubs, fergie, Klopp and pep too. That’s maybe the only box Wenger doesn’t tick, but it’s a harsh mark against him for his loyalty. |
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If City win four leagues on the bounce and their 6th (is it?) under Pep, it’s hard to make a case for anyone else being 2nd IMO I suppose it comes down to how you consider greatness. I think Wenger brought a whole new standard in terms of what he did and the level he made Fergie go to. That doesn’t really reflect in the numbers. Edit: I didn’t realise he’d won 7 FA Cups |
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