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Unread 23-04-2011, 10:55 AM
denis lawless
 
Thumbs down all this "advantage playing first" rubbish

theres no £#%&!ing advantage...the game still needs to be won...job still needs to be done ffs.....further more, its probably more of an advantage to play second because you already know what your opponent has done and if they have dropped points then the pressure is off a little.....

yeah, if you win, it puts pressure on your rivals but they still need to win their games either way ....so United win, does that mean chelsea and arse will be a little bit pissed off when they kick off

so £#%&! off wenger, £#%&! off sky, £#%&! off talkshite and £#%&! off all other media outlets
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 10:59 AM
otbarney
 
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Originally Posted by denis lawless
theres no £#%&!ing advantage...the game still needs to be won...job still needs to be done ffs.....further more, its probably more of an advantage to play second because you already know what your opponent has done and if they have dropped points then the pressure is off a little.....

yeah, if you win, it puts pressure on your rivals but they still need to win their games either way ....so United win, does that mean chelsea and arse will be a little bit pissed off when they kick off

so £#%&! off wenger, £#%&! off sky, £#%&! off talkshite and £#%&! off all other media outlets
This!
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:00 AM
Stickman
 
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given our position, I like playing first atm. hth

If wed beaten Newcastle for example we wouldnt have had to shit it through Spurs Arsenal.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:01 AM
Coracao
 
Thumbs down Re: all this "advantage playing first" %@#$&!s

Quote:
Originally Posted by denis lawless
theres no £#%&!ing advantage...the game still needs to be won...job still needs to be done ffs.....further more, its probably more of an advantage to play second because you already know what your opponent has done and if they have dropped points then the pressure is off a little.....

yeah, if you win, it puts pressure on your rivals but they still need to win their games either way ....so United win, does that mean chelsea and arse will be a little bit pissed off when they kick off

so £#%&! off wenger, £#%&! off sky, £#%&! off talkshite and £#%&! off all other media outlets
should have gone in the match thread tbh attention seeker
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:05 AM
red in cumbria
 
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Originally Posted by denis lawless
theres no £#%&!ing advantage...the game still needs to be won...job still needs to be done ffs.....further more, its probably more of an advantage to play second because you already know what your opponent has done and if they have dropped points then the pressure is off a little.....

yeah, if you win, it puts pressure on your rivals but they still need to win their games either way ....so United win, does that mean chelsea and arse will be a little bit pissed off when they kick off

so £#%&! off wenger, £#%&! off sky, £#%&! off talkshite and £#%&! off all other media outlets
Yes, quite possibly - at the very least, they will both know that they *have* to win, thus increasing the pressure.......

Alternatively, if we slip up it gives them a huge boost

I remember that in the 2006/07 run-in, Jose whinged about how we were always getting to play first and how this was "unfair". So he obviously thought there was an advantage in it.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:11 AM
Stickman
 
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Yes, quite possibly - at the very least, they will both know that they *have* to win, thus increasing the pressure.......

Alternatively, if we slip up it gives them a huge boost

I remember that in the 2006/07 run-in, Jose whinged about how we were always getting to play first and how this was "unfair". So he obviously thought there was an advantage in it.
yet when we slipped to let them right back in it at home to Boro they choked at St James Park on the sunday anyway.

I was pig sick that sat evening, thought wed £#%&!ed it.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:13 AM
denis lawless
 
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Originally Posted by Coracao
should have gone in the match thread tbh attention seeker
%@#$&!s..its a separate issue that need discussing

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Originally Posted by red in cumbria
Yes, quite possibly - at the very least, they will both know that they *have* to win, thus increasing the pressure.......

Alternatively, if we slip up it gives them a huge boost

yeah...but if youre behind on points, you have to win your matches either way
I remember that in the 2006/07 run-in, Jose whinged about how we were always getting to play first and how this was "unfair". So he obviously thought there was an advantage in it.
he was a WUM so he'd always say that.....boot on the other foot and he'd say the opposite
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:13 AM
red in cumbria
 
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yet when we slipped to let them right back in it at home to Boro they choked at St James Park on the sunday anyway.

I was pig sick that sat evening, thought wed £#%&!ed it.
Yup, remember how I raged at the boss for not taking Rio off before HT
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:14 AM
wonky no
 
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Originally Posted by denis lawless
theres no £#%&!ing advantage...the game still needs to be won...job still needs to be done ffs.....further more, its probably more of an advantage to play second because you already know what your opponent has done and if they have dropped points then the pressure is off a little.....

yeah, if you win, it puts pressure on your rivals but they still need to win their games either way ....so United win, does that mean chelsea and arse will be a little bit pissed off when they kick off

so £#%&! off wenger, £#%&! off sky, £#%&! off talkshite and £#%&! off all other media outlets
cuddle?
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:15 AM
denis lawless
 
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cuddle?
prefer a reach round tbh
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:18 AM
wonky no
 
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prefer a reach round tbh
don't push it
ok
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:19 AM
Bunker Buster
 
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it means 'Nothing'

Doesnt make any difference.

File along side stats.

Irrelevant %@#$&!s..........sucked up by know nowts.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:20 AM
denis lawless
 
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don't push it
ok


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Unread 23-04-2011, 11:20 AM
Stickman
 
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Yup, remember how I raged at the boss for not taking Rio off before HT
left Viduka umarked didnt he. We scored after 3 minutes as well ffs. Looked set to be yet another match we buried within 30 mins which was pretty standard issue at OT that year. If theyd beaten Newcastle our 3 pt buffer was gone, and we still had to go there.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:21 AM
denis lawless
 
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Originally Posted by Bunker Buster
it means 'Nothing'

Doesnt make any difference.

File along side stats.

Irrelevant %@#$&!s..........sucked up by know nowts.
trouble is a large % of the sky/talkshite/newspaper readers DO believe it.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:26 AM
Bunker Buster
 
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trouble is a large % of the sky/talkshite/newspaper readers DO believe it.
Who the hell can honestly believe that it effects another team what the result earlier in the day is....?

Its for fans to mull over at the bottle bar, dripping in replica.


Rubbish
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:27 AM
wonky no
 
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"they've got to go there and get something"

 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:31 AM
Time For Heroes
 
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Besides, has anyone mentioned exactly why we're playing earlier than them? What's that? We're still in the CL and they're not? Thought not, just another media conspiracy theory no doubt
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:32 AM
Bunker Buster
 
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"unbeaten in thier last 7 games"





Are any of those games against the team you play now ? no.....One could have even been in the cup/Carling cup...against £#%&!ing Queen of the south, pre season.oh some are draws you say.....WELL £#%&!ING DIE, DONT TELL ME ABOUT IT...DROWN.



It means NOTHING.
 
Unread 23-04-2011, 11:32 AM
Coracao
 
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I think it's a bit naive to say that the timings of the games have no effect.

If you play later on then it can clearly have an effect in terms of pressure on the game. Playing earlier isn't really much of an issue.

Less of an issue in this year's title race though with the 6 point gap. Chelsea and Arsenal need to win every game.
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