Who to bin in the summer?

Originally Posted by moyescabo

Am sure Jayalexander is that @#%&! mkr from red issue

Lindegaard, Evans, Rafael , Nick Powell, Javier Hernández and Nani

They seem the obvious ones to go. Should get a decent bit of money for them
Sad to see Rafael go but LvG clearly doesn't rate him and Valencia on recent showings will be adequate backup for the top class right back we sign in the summer

Question marks over Di Maria and van Persie
If Di Maria's head is right and he really wants to make his Utd career work then keep him otherwise look to off load him to PSG. Suspect he will stay
As for van Persie, if he is happy to play a squad role as backup centre forward to Rooney then let him see out the final year of his contract otherwise let him go

Originally Posted by moyescabo

Am sure Jayalexander is that @#%&! mkr from red issue

Has to be a wum or brand new to football.

Whatever the first thing on a subject he reads about becomes his opinion. Like them #@&%!s who turn in to footy fans every couple of years for International tournaments.

Lindegaard
Evans
Rafael
Clevs
Falcao's not staying
van Persie
Hernandez
Nani

Miraculously Young has made himself a viable Manchester United player, & even more miraculously Fellaini appears to be worthy of a place in the squad as well. Plan C only tbf but it's better to have the thug with us than against (unless someone wants to pay what we did...)

That's actually a £#%&!load of money right there even in nominal fees but wages would be massive.

There aren't any top class RB's to sign tbh.

Originally Posted by dunk

There aren't any top class RB's to sign tbh.

Bring Alves in, got Toy V there too but I expect big things from Raf.

Clyne's less than a year younger than Raf, only clocked that the other day.

Originally Posted by dunk

There aren't any top class RB's to sign tbh.

Probably a few that can play more than 15-18 games a season, though.

Wouldn't necessarily call Raf a top class RB anyway. He's good when fit, but positionally suspect and prone to stupid challenges as a result.

Keep Raf and let Louis continue his rehabilitation and let him and Tony V. Battle it out for the spot rather than spending a shed load on someone mediocre imo.

Absolute no point in keeping Di Maria. He isn't going to get any better and his value will only diminish further to the point we're stuck with him a'la Anderson. Get rid now whilst he's still floggable.

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

Absolute no point in keeping Di Maria. He isn't going to get any better and his value will only diminish further to the point we're stuck with him a'la Anderson. Get rid now whilst he's still floggable.

You really are a complete and utter %@#$&!.

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

You really are a complete and utter %@#$&!.

You've been fanboying the £#%&! out of Di Maria all season and he's been £#%&! and is a perennial substitute now, as we finally find the form required, but it's someone who doesn't see the worth of a player who is weak as £#%&!, doesn't want to be here and is as much of a danger to us as the opposition when he is on the pitch who you consider 'a %@#$&!'?

I'd keep him, but only because we'd never get what we paid back for him and because we've got enough business to do. Can see him being £#%&!ed off for a fraction of what we paid next summer a la Veron though..

Originally Posted by dunk

You've been fanboying the £#%&! out of Di Maria all season and he's been £#%&! and is a perennial substitute now, as we finally find the form required, but it's someone who doesn't see the worth of a player who is weak as £#%&!, doesn't want to be here and is as much of a danger to us as the opposition when he is on the pitch who you consider 'a %@#$&!'?

I'd keep him, but only because we'd never get what we paid back for him and because we've got enough business to do. Can see him being £#%&!ed off for a fraction of what we paid next summer a la Veron though..

How's Juan doing?

People saying bin off Di Maria but keeping Fellaini.

Fellaini had a terrible season but appears to have turned his fortunes around, is it not possible Di Maria could do the same and be an outstanding player for united?

Originally Posted by barca99

People saying bin off Di Maria but keeping Fellaini.

Fellaini had a terrible season but appears to have turned his fortunes around, is it not possible Di Maria could do the same and be an outstanding player for united?

This.

Do players not get time to settle now then?

We just give up on £60m investments after one season?

its not like he hasn't shown the potential of what he can be for us. even in poor form, he's still an outlet, still goes looking for the ball, looking to make things happen and still chips in assists.

as well as Ashley young has done, I suspect di Maria will make that left side role his again soon enough.

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

You really are a complete and utter %@#$&!.

Some of our best spells/performances this season have been without him. He's being kept out the team by Ashley Young and when he does get on the pitch he looks lazy, selfish and disinterested. Not to mention there's been murmurings of his unhappiness since before he even signed.

Not looking good for your boyfriend, pal.

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

How's Juan doing?

All right. Not as well as Fellaini or Young but miles better than Di Maria and Falcao. Thought he was anonymous in the main yesterday, and against Villa, has a lovely knack of picking up a goal though, which often masks his presence on the periphery of the rest of the game.

Originally Posted by dunk

All right. Not as well as Fellaini or Young but miles better than Di Maria and Falcao.

Exactly.

We're rebuilding, takes time for players to settle in, Di Maria (2nd highest assist in the league) is doing that.

I said keep him. He'll be gone inside 2 years though.

Originally Posted by moyescabo

Can you call Davidian an utter %@#$&! once again please?

They'll be plenty of chances in the near future.

Have patience young jedi.

Originally Posted by dunk

All right. Not as well as Fellaini or Young but miles better than Di Maria and Falcao. Thought he was anonymous in the main yesterday, and against Villa, has a lovely knack of picking up a goal though, which often masks his presence on the periphery of the rest of the game.

Not really true though is it. Whilst those two, along with Blind have been responsible for the majority of the attacking intent since Spurs, over the course of the season Mata's 8 goals, 90% pass success rate & 34 chances created are in a different stratosphere to Young (2 goals, 80% pass rate, 23 chances created). Fellaini's at 85% passing, 5 goals & 13 chances created.

It's more perception than anything. Mata's statistically way out ahead of them, but he also has the benefit of a sublime first touch, being able to weight his passes correctly & vision. Young & Fellaini are somewhat more prosaic by anyone's standard.

They would though, appear to be more willing to "get stuck in", which is your primary concern. I'd also go along with the wisdom of Roy Keane in a United side must "match them for effort & let your class shine through" (or words to that effect.)

Mata's able to increase his effort, I don't think Young & Fellaini are able to raise their individual quality to match Mata. They are however able to combine with Blind to be greater than the sum of their parts, which is why team sports like football are so glorious. 3 good players working in unison are always going to outshine an individual (unless you're talking about Messi or Ronnie tbf).

This was always one of the biggest gripes about the current United squad for the past 3 seasons... it relied on individual quality (van Persie firing us to the title & Moyes throwing all his eggs in the Rooney basket). It should absolutely always be a unit, far more than the sum of it's parts. I didn't think Van Gaal was going to be able to implement it for the most part, the tinkering, the frankly baffling formations & player positions (Mata in central midfield too deep, Rooney in the middle, Di Maria up front etc) but it's all come right in the end because the formula has been found. It's proving his ideas on the team > the individual & you can see them buying into it. What we need to hope is the better players buy into it the same way Mata has. & more than that, the new signings in the summer buy into it & bed in £#%&!ing rapidly as well, as you can see the progress (finally... ).