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Unread 16-04-2024, 08:02 AM
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Every summer has been a disaster for well over a decade, we're a £#%&!ing shambles. Even before Fergie left the rot had well and truly set in, the amouunt of top quality players we let other clubs pick up while we stood twiddling our thumbs, and eventually overpaying for second rate talents is staggering.

Amateurs on here have a better record of spotting the right players than the divs that have been running United, no other top club in Europe has ever inflicted so much damage on itself.
Yep.

Imagine if we went out this summer signing players to suit what we need to do, who knows, maybe some players who aren’t really well known and we get at a reasonable price?

Bit of scouting maybe?
 
Unread 16-04-2024, 08:46 AM
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Every summer has been a disaster for well over a decade, we're a £#%&!ing shambles. Even before Fergie left the rot had well and truly set in, the amount of top quality players we let other clubs pick up while we stood twiddling our thumbs, and eventually overpaying for second rate talents is staggering.

Amateurs on here have a better record of spotting the right players than the divs that have been running United, no other top club in Europe has ever inflicted so much damage on itself.
This.

We even overpaid for terrible players. Look at Fellaini. Nobody else interested, and we ended up actually paying above his release clause because we spent the summer fannying around.
And on top of that he was an absolute lumbering carthorse who should have been playing for Stoke.

We've also spent a decade making players worse. Genuinely hard to think of any players who've joined and improved. #
Bruno maybe?
 
Unread 16-04-2024, 09:32 AM
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Every summer has been a disaster for well over a decade, we're a £#%&!ing shambles. Even before Fergie left the rot had well and truly set in, the amouunt of top quality players we let other clubs pick up while we stood twiddling our thumbs, and eventually overpaying for second rate talents is staggering.

Amateurs on here have a better record of spotting the right players than the divs that have been running United, no other top club in Europe has ever inflicted so much damage on itself.
The period between 2009 - 2014 is particularly significant.

In 2009 the repayments on the interest of our debt were so enormous that had we not sold Ronaldo and got the entire 80m quid up front from Madrid, we'd wouldn't have been able to pay them. It's still absolutely astounding that it was allowed to happen. The Premier League as usual not one bit interested as it was only United who were being £#%&!ing rinsed, all the while at the time they completely ignore City just sponsoring themselves.

When you look at the players we were bringing in during that period of 09-14 it's a wonder we were able to compete for anything, let alone get to another champions league final in 2011, which if we're being honest, we had no business being in such was the gulf between Barcelona and ourselves at the time.

While City were hoovering up the likes of Yaya Toure, Silva, Aguero, Tevez we were scouring the bargain bin for players like Michael Owen, Bebe, Obertan, Biram Diouf, Buttner, Smalling, Dave Corsa etc.

I think it was only in 2014/15 when they restructured the debt that it actually allowed us to go an invest seriously in the squad. Which by that time we'd slipped miles behind anyway and we had Woodward in charge.
 
Unread 16-04-2024, 12:42 PM
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Yes please.
 
Unread 16-04-2024, 12:47 PM
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Saw a report today we are doing a Portuguese double. That Benfica lad at 100 million and Rafael Leao at...175 million
 
Unread 16-04-2024, 12:47 PM
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Every summer has been a disaster for well over a decade, we're a £#%&!ing shambles. Even before Fergie left the rot had well and truly set in, the amouunt of top quality players we let other clubs pick up while we stood twiddling our thumbs, and eventually overpaying for second rate talents is staggering.

Amateurs on here have a better record of spotting the right players than the divs that have been running United, no other top club in Europe has ever inflicted so much damage on itself.
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Unread 16-04-2024, 05:28 PM
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Saw a report today we are doing a Portuguese double. That Benfica lad at 100 million and Rafael Leao at...175 million
IMO the last good transfer window we had was when we bought 2 lads from the Portuguese league. Summer 2007.

17 years ago, or in other words, 33 transfer windows ago.
 
Unread 16-04-2024, 07:22 PM
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IMO the last good transfer window we had was when we bought 2 lads from the Portuguese league. Summer 2007.

17 years ago, or in other words, 33 transfer windows ago.
Hargreaves
Tevez
Nani
Anderson

 
Unread 16-04-2024, 09:15 PM
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Hargreaves
Tevez
Nani
Anderson

Big boy shit.

Straight off the back of a league title win, we added real quality to a squad that was already developing into one of Europe's best.

Ferguson saw the gaps off the back of that AC Milan tie, and swiftly addressed them. No surprise we went on to win another League title, and the Champions League straight after that summer.
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