since alex ferguson arrived at ot

23 £#%&!ing years. unbelievable.

look at this. number of managers since 1986:



manchester united - 1 manager (sir alex ferguson)

arsenal - 6 managers (steve burtenshaw, george graham, stewart houston, pat rice, bruce rioch, arsene wenger)

liverpool - 6 managers (kenny dalglish, ronnie moran, graham souness, roy evans, gerard houllier, rafael benitez)

chelsea - 13 managers (john hollins, bobby campbell, ian porterfield, david webb, glenn hoddle, ruud gullit, gianluca vialli, graham rix, claudio ranieri, jose mourinho, avram grant, liuz felipe scolari, ray wilkins)

newcastle united - 17 managers (willie mcfaul, colin suggett, jim smith, osvaldo ardiles, kevin keegan, terry mcdermott, kenny dalglish, ruud gullit, steve clarke, sir bobby robson, john carver, graeme souness, glenn roeder, nigel pearson, kevin keegan, chris houghton, joe kinnear)

manchester city - 17 managers (jimmy frizzell, mel machin, tony book, howard kendall, peter reid, tony book, brian horton, alan ball, asa hartford, steve coppell, phil neal, frank clark, joe royle, kevin keegan, stuart pearce, sven-goran eriksson, mark hughes)


i've counted the various short-termers on the basis that if a club is idiotic enough to sack its manager without a replacement lined up then they deserve all the statistical piss-taking they get.


£#%&!ing astonishing, when you think about it, though. the list of potential rivals he has seen off and variously driven into retirement/an early grave/profound mental health problems is quite remarkable. i really can't think of a parallel at an equivalent level in any sport, tbh.

some big names at City & Newcastle

i've counted the various short-termers on the basis that if a club is idiotic enough to sack its manager without a replacement lined up then they deserve all the statistical piss-taking they get.

i like your logic

Bruce Rioch managed arsenal before wenger

Legend.

Spurs must have had a few too.

you've missed out Knox, Kidd, MacLaren, Quiroz and Phelan

Originally Posted by Coracao

Bruce Rioch managed arsenal before wenger

duly edited

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

you've missed out Knox, Kidd, MacLaren, Quiroz and Phelan

We're £#%&!ed when he leaves. Think of Tito and Yugoslavia and multiply it by .086

Quite a few of them have had some form of mental breakdown as well - Hoddle, Coppell, Keegan, Dalglish, Benitez.

Well done Fergie.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

you've missed out Knox, Kidd, MacLaren, Quiroz and Phelan

bastard beat me to it

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Quite a few of them have had some form of mental breakdown as well - Hoddle, Coppell, Keegan, Dalglish, Benitez.

Well done Fergie.

and Wenger's which has been going on for about 6 years.

You've counted Tony Book in twice for city.

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Quite a few of them have had some form of mental breakdown as well - Hoddle, Coppell, Keegan, Dalglish, Benitez.

Well done Fergie.

houllier

and mourinho and scolari didn't look quite so chipper on the way out as they did on the way in

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

You've counted Tony Book in twice for city.

did the job twice, like king kelvin for the toon. i think he was caretaker twice, actually.

Should include Everton as they were Champions in Alex's first season

Everton (11 Managers): Howard Kendall, Colin Harvey, Jimmy Gabriel, Howard Kendall, Jimmy Gabriel, Mike Walker, Joe Royle, Dave Watson, Howard Kendall, Walter Smith, David Moyes

Could include Spurs, who were a similar sized club when he joined;

21

David PLEAT 1986 - 1987
Terry VENABLES 1987 - May 1991
Peter SHREEVES 1991 - 1992
Doug LIVERMORE / Ray CLEMENCE 1992 - 1993
Osvaldo ARDILES 1993 - 1994
Gerry FRANCIS 1994 - 1997
Christian GROSS 1997 - September 1998
David PLEAT (Caretaker) September 1998 - October 1998
George GRAHAM October 1998 - March 2001
David PLEAT (Caretaker) March 2001
Glenn HODDLE April 2001 - September 2003
David PLEAT (Caretaker) September 2003 - May 2004
Jacques SANTINI (Head Coach) July 2004 - 6 November 2004
Martin JOL (Head Coach) 6 November 2004 - 25 October 2007
Clive ALLEN / Alex INGLETHORPE (Caretaker) 25 October 2007 - 29 October 2007
Juande RAMOS (Head Coach) 29 October 2007 - 25 October 2008
Clive ALLEN / Alex INGLETHORPE (Caretaker) 26 October 2008
Harry REDKNAPP

gets even better if you look at some of the asylums elsewhere:

real madrid - 23 managers (leo beenhakker, john toshack, alfredo di stefano, radomir antic, leo beenhakker, benito floro, vicente del bosque, jorge valdano, vicente del bosque, arsenio iglesias, fabio capello, jupp heynckes, guus hiddink, john toshack, vicente del bosque, carlos queiroz, jose antonio camacho, mariano garcía remon, vanderlei luxemburgo, juan ramon lopez, fabio capello, bernd schuster, juande ramos)

Originally Posted by borsuk

gets even better if you look at some of the asylums elsewhere:

real madrid - 23 managers (leo beenhakker, john toshack, alfredo di stefano, radomir antic, leo beenhakker, benito floro, vicente del bosque, jorge valdano, vicente del bosque, arsenio iglesias, fabio capello, jupp heynckes, guus hiddink, john toshack, vicente del bosque, carlos queiroz, jose antonio camacho, mariano garcía remon, vanderlei luxemburgo, juan ramon lopez, fabio capello, bernd schuster, juande ramos)

blimey, that's a full squad :shakehead:

Originally Posted by borsuk

did the job twice, like king kelvin for the toon. i think he was caretaker twice, actually.

Ah but can he play football?

Originally Posted by Zorg

Ah but can he play football?