English Football is Cancelled

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Key workers have been given PPE and socially distanced from other staff and customers.

As far as I'm aware, if you work in Tesco, it's not usual that you have to slide tackle Doris from customer services.

there speaks a man who has never worked at the tesco express on langley.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Key workers have been given PPE and socially distanced from other staff and customers.

As far as I'm aware, if you work in Tesco, it's not usual that you have to slide tackle Doris from customer services.

You've never worked in a supermarket have you pal ?

Those that have been deemed key workers were never given PPE

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Key workers have been given PPE and socially distanced from other staff and customers.

As far as I'm aware, if you work in Tesco, it's not usual that you have to slide tackle Doris from customer services.

There’s loads of key workers who haven’t been given PPE.

Yeah and if you’re working in Tesco, you don’t have the luxury of only being in contact with a very small group of people, who have also all been tested for the virus.

Originally Posted by Ethers

There’s loads of key workers who haven’t been given PPE.

Yeah and if you’re working in Tesco, you don’t have the luxury of only being in contact with a very small group of people, who have also all been tested for the virus.

Are you suggesting supermarket workers have had as much physical contact with others that footballers will during a match?

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

You've never worked in a supermarket have you pal ?

Those that have been deemed key workers were never given PPE

NHS staff were deemed key workers. The Tesco at the bottom of my street all staff are wearing gloves and serving behind perspex screens

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Are you suggesting supermarket workers have had as much physical contact with others that footballers will during a match?

No, maybe try reading it again?

You don’t need to be in physical contact with someone to catch it.

Would you rather be paid £9 an hour to have to come into close proximity to the general public, many of who aren’t practising social distancing, for long shifts over 2 months.

Or get paid millions to play football for 90 minutes with a small group of fellow professionals with access to the best facilities in the world, all of whom have been pre-screened for the virus.

Quote the dilemma eh.

Kante downed tools and gone home today.

Originally Posted by Ethers

No, maybe try reading it again?

You don’t need to be in physical contact with someone to catch it.

Would you rather be paid £9 an hour to have to come into close proximity to the general public, many of who aren’t practising social distancing, for long shifts over 2 months.

Or get paid millions to play football for 90 minutes with a small group of fellow professionals with access to the best facilities in the world, all of whom have been pre-screened for the virus.

Quote the dilemma eh.

Footballers aren't key workers.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Footballers aren't key workers.

Ok. Thanks for that.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Ok. Thanks for that.

So why should they go back to work when they cannot follow the social distancing guidelines all other non key workers are entitled to under the Health and Safety at Work Act?

Originally Posted by Big Norm

So why should they go back to work when they cannot follow the social distancing guidelines all other non key workers are entitled to under the Health and Safety at Work Act?

Plenty of non key workers have been back at work for ages, or never even stopped work, in jobs that mean they can’t follow social distancing guidelines at all times.

They just get on with it, because they have no other option.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Plenty of non key workers have been back at work for ages, or never even stopped work, in jobs that mean they can’t follow social distancing guidelines at all times.

They just get on with it, because they have no other option.

They shouldn't have, according to the law.

There’s nothing in law that says social distancing guidelines have to be followed at all times.

Originally Posted by Ethers

There’s nothing in law that says social distancing guidelines have to be followed at all times.

The workplaces need to be Covid-19 secure, if they are not, it is a breach of Health and Safety legislation. The 2 metre distance is part of this, where this is not possible, use of screens or changes in shift patterns should be used to accommodate it.

Originally Posted by Ethers

There’s nothing in law that says social distancing guidelines have to be followed at all times.

Check HSE legislation. It's not Covid-19 specific but it applies.

Think I read somewhere that in South Korea the authorities agreed that football could start planning once deaths were down to one or two a day and yet here we are at 338 today and they're all back in training. It's obscene.

Originally Posted by Time For Heroes

Think I read somewhere that in South Korea the authorities agreed that football could start planning once deaths were down to one or two a day and yet here we are at 338 today and they're all back in training. It's obscene.

The prime motivation for Premier League to return is greed.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

The workplaces need to be Covid-19 secure, if they are not, it is a breach of Health and Safety legislation. The 2 metre distance is part of this, where this is not possible, use of screens or changes in shift patterns should be used to accommodate it.

Correct. In construction however, this has proved to be absolutely nosensical so basically it's a case of get back to work and grin and bear it, or lose out on said work/wages.


Totally farcial. In the context of football of course it's financially motivated. It's financially motivated in every other sector as well but I think people see football as less necessary than (for example) construction because it's the entertainment industry, but there's a lot of people in the lower tiers relying on the money football brings in to pay the wages.

Of course, what they could do is a full appraisal of the game top to bottom to redistribute the wealth as best they can and ensure clubs don't go under and wages of players and staff alike are covered for all. But neither society nor industry is run like that so it won't happen.

Do regulations say anything about wearing masks, and regularly washing hands? 'Cos that's the effective method for preventing the spread of disease, not simply standing two metres apart.

Unless I've missed something and we've gone back several centuries to accept miasma theory again

Originally Posted by Big Norm

The workplaces need to be Covid-19 secure, if they are not, it is a breach of Health and Safety legislation. The 2 metre distance is part of this, where this is not possible, use of screens or changes in shift patterns should be used to accommodate it.

No, where 2m is not possible the government have said you should do everything possible to manage transmission risk.

Pretty sure testing everybody involved would fall under that.

Originally Posted by Ethers

No, where 2m is not possible the government have said you should do everything possible to manage transmission risk.

Pretty sure testing everybody involved would fall under that.

Not according to this.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-...working-safely