Donny Van De Beek

Originally Posted by bosskeano

not clue if he's a negative influence in the dressing room but he sure as f*** is a negative influence on the pitch and that is where it matters most

he is our best player. our most talented player.
It’s up to the manager to get the best out of him.

Originally Posted by AK14

He went awol in an attempt to push through a move to Madrid and is still flirting with them in the press.

a top player with ambition is always going to flirt with big teams who are seen to be doing better than his current team.
didn’t we used to say ageuro lacks ambition for staying at city?

to be fair to pogba looking at United from the outside , would you blame him?

the recruitment is bullshit, the manager doesn’t know what he is doing and nothing is clicking.

the reason our other players aren’t flirting with Madrid or PSG is because we they are pulling a fast one just being paid as much as they are at United.

we don’t have any players that a top team would want.

Originally Posted by marlo

he is our best player. our most talented player.
It’s up to the manager to get the best out of him.

disagree....he's not our best player and not sure how you can say that when he's failed to show it for the last 18 months on a regular basis.

Martial(as frustrating as he is at times), Rashford and Bruno have shown they are the best players at the club right now

question....how do you get the best out of someone that doesn't want to be there and doesn't put in the work on the pitch??? Managers aren't miracle workers especially once the match begins as it is then down to the players on the pitch.

Originally Posted by marlo

he is our best player. our most talented player.
It’s up to the manager to get the best out of him.



a top player with ambition is always going to flirt with big teams who are seen to be doing better than his current team.
didn’t we used to say ageuro lacks ambition for staying at city?

to be fair to pogba looking at United from the outside , would you blame him?

the recruitment is bullshit, the manager doesn’t know what he is doing and nothing is clicking.

the reason our other players aren’t flirting with Madrid or PSG is because we they are pulling a fast one just being paid as much as they are at United.

we don’t have any players that a top team would want.

Jesus

I’m out

Enjoy your night inside pogba’s ring piece.

Originally Posted by bosskeano

disagree....he's not our best player and not sure how you can say that when he's failed to show it for the last 18 months on a regular basis.

Martial(as frustrating as he is at times), Rashford and Bruno have shown they are the best players at the club right now

question....how do you get the best out of someone that doesn't want to be there and doesn't put in the work on the pitch??? Managers aren't miracle workers especially once the match begins as it is then down to the players on the pitch.

the narrative of him not wanting to put in work is just a conjecture.
you can see him getting frustrated with himself and him giving away the penalties is him trying to get the ball etc

if rashford is the best player we have we are in trouble. his “great” form is one decent league game and 2 ecl games. He has played well for about 10 days. Before that it was “focus on football not feeding children” or have some of you forgot how shocking he was.

Bruno the favourite child no one wants to admit when he is poor.
“He gives the ball away because he is trying to make things happens”
but pogba is sloppy in possession.

how do we get the best out of him...?
if only we paid a man a few million pounds to actually coach and improve the our team?

our problems isn’t so much our ingredients, it’s the chef in kitchen who can’t cook. No matter what ingredients you give him, he is doesn’t know what he is doing.

Originally Posted by marlo

he is our best player. our most talented player.

these are not the same thing. not sure he's even the most talented, but no £#%&!ing way is he our best player. wouldn't even get in our first xi. soz.

Marlo is our most talented poster yet he continues to post unadulterated shite.

If its all about the manager needing to get more out of Pogba then why is it two consecutive managers have failed to get a tune out of him? At some point you have to look at the common denominator

Originally Posted by marlo

he is our best player. our most talented player.

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On a par with Fred in the goal scored column for the last two seasons.....and that was a £#%&!ing deflection

Currently trailing the goal machine that is McTommers

We are blessed

Originally Posted by MUFCOK

If its all about the manager needing to get more out of Pogba then why is it two consecutive managers have failed to get a tune out of him? At some point you have to look at the common denominator

Mourinho and pogba fell out. thats happens.
he did the same with salad, hazard, mata, de Bruyne. its what he does and it will happen with bale at spurs soon.

ole isn't a top level manager who he doesn't even what a tune is let along how to get it out a player. he has no business or credentials to be managing players like pogba.
he doesn't even know how to balance our midfield.

Originally Posted by jem

these are not the same thing. not sure he's even the most talented, but no f***ing way is he our best player. wouldn't even get in our first xi. soz.

pogba can do anything. he is easily the most talented.
he is also our best player but isn't playing well and isn't being coached either. the team is a mess. the manager is failing the players if anything.

to start churning out nonsense like mctoninay is better than pogba . or that van de beek should be insulted to be behind pogba in the pecking order is taking the piss. he isn't playing well but lets no be stupid here.

theres not a manager in world football who when presented with an option of Paul pogba and van Der beek would pick the latter.

Originally Posted by marlo

theres not a manager in world football who when presented with an option of Paul pogba and van Der beek would pick the latter.

Marlo, I’m a big Pogba fan, but he hasn’t played well since about December 2018, maybe Jan 2019 giving him the benefit of the doubt. And even then, he was causing us problems on the pitch because he’s a £#%&!ing idiot.

Originally Posted by marlo

pogba can do anything. he is easily the most talented.

What's he waiting for?

Originally Posted by dunk

Marlo, I’m a big Pogba fan, but he hasn’t played well since about December 2018, maybe Jan 2019 giving him the benefit of the doubt. And even then, he was causing us problems on the pitch because he’s a f***ing idiot.

but why single him out...
not one player has shown any sort of consistency. we have a manager who doesn't know what he is doing. not a clue.

why isn't their a thread on if Maguire plays well this season?

pogba isn't the problem at all.

if pogba is our most talented player, then the only reasons he is not our best player are that he is lazy and stupid.

sure, ole doesn't know how to pick a balanced midfield. he keeps picking that stupid, lazy @#%&! pogba.

No-one has the ability of Pogba in the United squad. Very few in world football have his range of passing but he's practically not a midfielder. He's a brilliant number 10 that happens to look like a midfielder. People want him to be vierra/keane but he's nothing like them.

Put him up front away from the responsibility and give him creative freedom is the only way to play him. Put too much on his shoulders and he gets confused and tries too hard.

I don't think he's a bad influence on anyone and feel sorry that people keep on trying to make him something he's not.

he shouldn't be allowed in our half. he'd still make bad choices. talent schmalent. we keep conceding goals because of his lack of awareness and lack of application. we can't can't carry a £#%&!ing princess.

Originally Posted by jem

he shouldn't be allowed in our half. he'd still make bad choices. talent schmalent. we keep conceding goals because of his lack of awareness and lack of application. we can't can't carry a £#%&!ing princess.

He needs to be a number 10/in a free role. Trying to make him a holding midfielder is madness. He is what he is and people need to accept that and try get the best out of his abilities.

I think he has an annoying agent but he himself is not a disruptive type at all.

He'd be Hazard's replacement at Real but we try play him like Busquets most of the time and wonder why it isn't working.

Originally Posted by armchair

He needs to be a number 10/in a free role. Trying to make him a holding midfielder is madness. He is what he is and people need to accept that and try get the best out of his abilities.

I think he has an annoying agent but he himself is not a disruptive type at all.

He'd be Hazard's replacement at Real but we try play him like Busquets most of the time and wonder why it isn't working.

even as a no 10, he will give ball away cheaply. I have always said he needs to be in the front three, with a proper midfield behind him, but.... is he going to be more effective than bruno? is he a better link than dvb? is he as clever as mata? is he going to score like martial, rashford or greenwood?

he's a squad player at the moment.

I don't care about his agent or real. I care what he does on the pitch

Originally Posted by jem

even as a no 10, he will give ball away cheaply. I have always said he needs to be in the front three, with a proper midfield behind him, but.... is he going to be more effective than bruno? is he a better link than dvb? is he as clever as mata? is he going to score like martial, rashford or greenwood?

he's a squad player at the moment.

I don't care about his agent or real. I care what he does on the pitch

I was going to mention a front 3 but yeah he'd be far more useful to the midfield away from the midfield.

Originally Posted by armchair

No-one has the ability of Pogba in the United squad. Very few in world football have his range of passing but he's practically not a midfielder. He's a brilliant number 10 that happens to look like a midfielder. People want him to be vierra/keane but he's nothing like them.

Put him up front away from the responsibility and give him creative freedom is the only way to play him. Put too much on his shoulders and he gets confused and tries too hard.

I don't think he's a bad influence on anyone and feel sorry that people keep on trying to make him something he's not.

Tries too hard? Which game was that?