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Unread 16-10-2008, 09:24 AM
antonin jablonsky
 
Default So the debates are over, finishing line is in sight and Obama has a clear lead.

Lead as high as 14 points in one poll and about 8 or 9 in CNN's poll of polls. Most commentators are clling last night a tie, though the polls suggest voters considered it another win for Obama. Surely as long as he doesn't trip over himself and he doesn't get caught blowing up court houses with Bill Ayers Obama can't f*** this up?
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 09:36 AM
Fuzzy Dunlop
 
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These leads don't really mean anything do they? Most people who want Obama to win won't bother voting because they think it's a shoe in. McCain's army of the right will be out in droves.
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 09:43 AM
antonin jablonsky
 
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These leads don't really mean anything do they? Most people who want Obama to win won't bother voting because they think it's a shoe in. McCain's army of the right will be out in droves.
The GOP can hope you are correct I s'pose. Trouble with that analysis of course is that McCain isn't particularly popular with the right wing of the GOP, amazingly he isn't "maverick" enough for them, that's why he's got that lunatic woman as his VP candidate.

I think these leads do mean summat personally, McCain is 10 points down in Virginia which hasn't voted Democrat in 40+ years.
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Withers
 
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Only a terrorist attack can stop him now...................
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 09:51 AM
Toilet sniffer V
 
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If the Republicans think they cant win they might not be bothered to vote. Personally I just want to see all the Palin supporters cry and I hope they really do think Obama is a terrorist, them living in fear for 8 years is not a bad thing.
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 09:55 AM
antonin jablonsky
 
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Good article here :-

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...lls/index.html

Polls: McCain forced to play defense in some red statesStory Highlights
New CNN/Time Magazine/Opinion Research Corp. polls out Wednesday

They suggest John McCain is on defense in areas once reliably Republican

Barack Obama has a 10-point lead over McCain among likely voters in Virginia

Obama also leading McCain in Colorado, Florida




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From Paul Steinhauser
CNN Deputy Political Director


HEMPSTEAD, New York -- New polls out Wednesday in some crucial states that could decide the race for the White House suggest Sen. John McCain is having to defend himself in areas that once were reliably Republican.


New polls suggest that Sen. John McCain is trailing his opponent in several GOP strongholds.

A new CNN/Time Magazine/Opinion Research Corporation survey in Virginia released Wednesday indicates that Sen. Barack Obama holds a 10-point lead over McCain -- 53 percent to 43 percent among likely voters.

President Bush won Virginia by nine points over Sen. John Kerry in 2004, and the state hasn't voted for a Democrat in a presidential election since 1964.

"Obama is winning men and women in Virginia, and is doing well across the state east of the Blue Ridge Mountains," CNN polling director Keating Holland said.

It's a similar story in Colorado, a state that hasn't voted for a Democrat in the race for the White House in 16 years. The new poll indicates the Illinois senator holds a four-point edge over McCain, 51 percent to 47 percent. Watch more on if Colorado could go blue

And in Georgia, a state that Bush won by 17 points over Kerry four years ago and that hasn't voted for the Democrats in a presidential contest in 16 years, the poll suggests only a 6-point lead for McCain, 51 percent to 45 percent.

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"It looks like McCain has to play defense in states that Republicans have been able to count on in previous elections," Holland said. "That doesn't mean he will ultimately lose those states, but it does mean he has less time and money to spend in the swing states that are likely to decide this election." Watch the candidates duke it out in swing states

The poll also indicates Obama has a five-point advantage over McCain in Florida, 51 percent to 46 percent. Twenty-seven electoral votes are up for grabs in Florida. Bush took the state by five points in the last election.

In Missouri, which Bush won in the past two presidential contests, the new poll suggests it's basically a dead heat, with McCain holding a one-point advantage over Obama, 49 percent to 48 percent. Watch more on how voters are leaning in Missouri

Among voters nationally, a poll released Wednesday shows an eight-point lead for Obama.

In CNN's national general election "Poll of Polls" released Wednesday afternoon, Obama was leading McCain, 50 percent to 42 percent, with eight percent unsure.


The CNN/Time Magazine/Opinion Research Corporation survey is being released just hours before McCain and Obama meet in the third and final presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York, beginning at 9 p.m. ET.

The 90-minute face-off can been seen live on CNN and CNN.com/Live.

The debate will undoubtedly focus on the economic crisis plaguing the country. As the nation has been going through a financial crisis over the last few weeks, McCain has slipped in the polls behind Obama, the Democratic nominee.

CNN political editor Mark Preston said the debate probably will be McCain's "last chance to reach tens of millions of people with his vision for America."

"He needs a game-changer," Preston said.

The CNN/Time Magazine/Opinion Research Corporation polls were conducted Saturday through Tuesday, with 762 likely voters in Colorado, 765 in Florida, 718 in Georgia, 763 in Missouri and 698 in Virginia, questioned by telephone.

The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.


The national general election "Poll of Polls" consists of seven surveys: Pew (October 9-12), Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg (October 10-13), CBS/New York Times (October 10-13), American Research Group (October 11-13), Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby (October 12-14), Gallup (October 12-14) and Diageo/Hotline (October 12-14).
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 09:59 AM
Jez Quigley
 
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If the Republicans think they cant win they might not be bothered to vote. Personally I just want to see all the Palin supporters cry and I hope they really do think Obama is a terrorist, them living in fear for 8 years is not a bad thing.
Would you place Sarah Palin for a job knowing she was a maverick?

Politicians who claim to be mavericks are like 30 somethings who make out they were wild in their youth, 20 somethings who reckon they can out drink Ollie Reed and teenagers who reckon they have shagged more than a thousand women - pathetic.

I think it will be closer than you think - when push comes to shove, the whole racial thing will come into it and I reckon Oven Chip Man will sneak in. Sadly.
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 10:05 AM
Harri Jaffa
 
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I doesn't matter about who votes. There will be enough 'spoiled' voting slips to make sure that McCain gets in.




On a side note. When Bush came into power the US governamnt were running at a profit. Now they are running at somthing like a 9 TRILLION dollar deficit - Surely that is nothing less than criminal?
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 10:10 AM
Toilet sniffer V
 
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Would you place Sarah Palin for a job knowing she was a maverick?

Politicians who claim to be mavericks are like 30 somethings who make out they were wild in their youth, 20 somethings who reckon they can out drink Ollie Reed and teenagers who reckon they have shagged more than a thousand women - pathetic.

I think it will be closer than you think - when push comes to shove, the whole racial thing will come into it and I reckon Oven Chip Man will sneak in. Sadly.
No. Especially if the job included overseeing more nuclear weapons than anyone else in the world. Scary really that they think someone unpredicatable would make a good President.
 
Unread 16-10-2008, 10:12 AM
Mr_Ed
 
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I reckon that, within the next 3-4 weeks, Osama Bin Laden or one of his cronies in Al Quaeda will 'pop up' with a video to Al Jazeera TV saying 'attack America' and McCain will use as a vehicle to get into office. You read it here first.

Nobody seemed to mention that one of his last 'rants' was only 2 weeks before the last US Election that gave George W Bush a kick start to get back into office.
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