PAID: AZ Alkmaar v Manchester United: Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by AK14

Could do with his whipped in crosses from the left tbf.

Probably gave him too much money. Wrecked him.

5th most expensive signing in United's history is Fred.

Originally Posted by saayfooty

Good coaching.

As already said, on this basis both LvG and Mourinho - two of the most decorated managers in the game - were terrible coaches. With us anyway. So why with us, not elsewhere?

Or maybe at least a large part of the problem is actually something else??

Originally Posted by Vedder

He’s got to go now, it’s beyond a £#%&!ing joke tbh.

#@&%!.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

How about

“Tough match, difficult pitch. We didn’t play well but coming away with a draw from possibly the toughest match in our group is a decent result”

Doesn’t have to tell the truth about how awful we were but just don’t talk utter shite about a good performance and should have got 3 points

Ok, so he should talk shite without talking utter shite. I can see why that would be so much better.

Nothing match, couldn't care less about the result.

But...
...would be nice if we could use these games to try something, anything. Something beyond the confirmation that our young players are not ready and our senior squad players are not good enough. Looking completely clueless. Feels like Ole picks 11 players and says go out and play football. Schoolyard stuff.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

#@&%!.



Ok, so he should talk shite without talking utter shite. I can see why that would be so much better.

yeah let’s keep him even though everyone can see he’s a shit coach. We are the worst coached side in the league, we’re just lucky we have better individuals than the teams below us

that pass fred did first half just knocked it to nobody straight out of play

Originally Posted by puressence

that pass fred did first half just knocked it to nobody straight out of play

You make it sound as though it was only the one!

He was £#%&!ing diabolical. He managed to look the worse player in a United shirt by some distance, which was some doing last night with Matic, Mata and Rojo helping to stink out the place.

I've not seen him have one good game for us yet, or even half decent game. A signing that sums up everything currently wrong with the club.

I'm not to down on the young lads, it's going to take time for them to bed in. It's says a lot though when The Scottish Player comes onto the pitch and makes more happen in 5 minutes, than three players that cost us about £135mil and have shed loads of experience in European football could do in about 75 minutes.

Until The Scottish Player came on, no one in that midfield wanted to take responsibility for creating the chances we needed to create. Matic, Fred and Mata. A triangle of shite.

Originally Posted by Patty_b

You make it sound as though it was only the one!

He was £#%&!ing diabolical. He managed to look the worse player in a United shirt by some distance, which was some doing last night with Matic, Mata and Rojo helping to stink out the place.

I've not seen him have one good game for us yet, or even half decent game. A signing that sums up everything currently wrong with the club.

I'm not to down on the young lads, it's going to take time for them to bed in. It's says a lot though when The Scottish Player comes onto the pitch and makes more happen in 5 minutes, than three players that cost us about £135mil and have shed loads of experience in European football could do in about 75 minutes.

Until The Scottish Player came on, no one in that midfield wanted to take responsibility for creating the chances we needed to create. Matic, Fred and Mata. A triangle of shite.

i couldnt be arsed writing a match report on him , that one stood out .

“£#%&! the Europa, if he’s got any sense he’ll just play the kids and reserves to give them experience”

Plays the kids and reserves

“@#%&!”

Originally Posted by believe

“£#%&! the Europa, if he’s got any sense he’ll just play the kids and reserves to give them experience”

Plays the kids and reserves

“@#%&!”

I think people would be fine with it if we were putting decent performances in the league.

We aren't.

It's all shit.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

I think people would be fine with it if we were putting decent performances in the league.

We aren't.

It's all shit.

Unfortunately, like you said on another thread, the biggest problem is that most of them just aren’t good enough. You’ve got to admire Ole and what he’s trying to do but he’s so far out of his depth it’s becoming a bit embarrassing now. If we don’t get a result Sunday I think he’ll be gone and if I’m honest it might be the best for all concerned.

Originally Posted by believe

Unfortunately, like you said on another thread, the biggest problem is that most of them just aren’t good enough. You’ve got to admire Ole and what he’s trying to do but he’s so far out of his depth it’s becoming a bit embarrassing now. If we don’t get a result Sunday I think he’ll be gone and if I’m honest it might be the best for all concerned.

I am all for playing kids if they are there on merit and improve the side. Our kid's don't with the exceptional of The Scottish Player and potentially Greenwood. I'm not getting too excited about Daddy as we have here before with Macheda and look how he turned out although, granted, he does look the businesses and can finish. I was wrong about The Scottish Player, he is becoming a key player although I did say before the start of the season this will be his season. Chong, for all his potential, has looked poor. Gomes is a nothing player.

You only have to look at Chelsea and see how well players like Mount and Temori are doing to see integrating kids can work but the difference is Chelsea still have a lot of experienced players in there with them but, to be fair, they spent a year in the Championship. That is what should have happened with Chong and Gomes before people like AK14 are demanding they be in the team. Same with Garner, everyone hailing as the next best thing but he has no experience and the fact he has been nowhere near the first team despite our obvious problems in the middle of the park says a lot.

I know people want Ole to succeed, I did too, but you have got to be realistic - it's not going to get better. He may 'get us' but, sadly, the club and what we have at our disposal is a far from the Manchester United he used to know.

Originally Posted by believe

Unfortunately, like you said on another thread, the biggest problem is that most of them just aren’t good enough. You’ve got to admire Ole and what he’s trying to do but he’s so far out of his depth it’s becoming a bit embarrassing now. If we don’t get a result Sunday I think he’ll be gone and if I’m honest it might be the best for all concerned.

Don't think he's anywhere close to getting tinned at all. Do people really think he is

Way too early to be talking sacking. He could lose 6 on the bounce from this weekend and he still wouldn't get sacked anyway.

Originally Posted by Sapien

Don't think he's anywhere close to getting tinned at all. Do people really think he is

Of course he is. This can't continue. If we miss out on the CL, for which the Europa is our best shot, we lose half of the Adidas money. The club know that.

Originally Posted by Sapien

Don't think he's anywhere close to getting tinned at all. Do people really think he is

I didn’t until pure mentioned it earlier, now I’m convinced.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

As already said, on this basis both LvG and Mourinho - two of the most decorated managers in the game - were terrible coaches. With us anyway. So why with us, not elsewhere?

Or maybe at least a large part of the problem is actually something else??

Rashford and Martial thrived under LvG.

Unfortunately after ten months there’s no real indication that we are being coached. That’s worrying. The young players especially shouldn’t look this defeated.

Originally Posted by utd99

Probably gave him too much money. Wrecked him.

Nah, I heard it was his lack of One-two’s that was the final nail in his coffin here.

it’s not ole’s fault
It’s a shit competition
We are playing our kids and reserves
Mourinho is bad bad bad
Rashford is going through things off the pitch
This is transition

the fact still remains we are now at a stage where we didn’t even register a shot on target in the europa league....
It’s unacceptable and we are now even saying “we aren’t good enough to win it”...standard have dropped so much but because our manager used to be our squad striker let’s pretend he isnt leading us into an abyss