Aston Villa vs Manchester United : Official Matchday Thread 06/11/2022 @ 2.00pm

Think TenH got totally outdone by the new Villa guy today, utd were leggy and they set up to do us and it worked, some very tired nothing performances and the usual suspects played the way they do. Nearly all the prem teams can produce if you let them and to me that's what happened, utd went about it the wrong way.

Ronnie is obviously a gonna and Rashers has to be honed into one position, probs out on the left. Eric just looked tired, loads of nothing passes that went nowhere, he can't be playing so many games. As good as Martinez is, you play Linda and you will concede. Utd are just not a very good squad.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Think TenH got totally outdone by the new Villa guy today, utd were leggy and they set up to do us and it worked, some very tired nothing performances and the usual suspects played the way they do. Nearly all the prem teams can produce if you let them and to me that's what happened, utd went about it the wrong way.

Ronnie is obviously a gonna and Rashers has to be honed into one position, probs out on the left. Eric just looked tired, loads of nothing passes that went nowhere, he can't be playing so many games. As good as Martinez is, you play Linda and you will concede. Utd are just not a very good squad.

A lot right here.
Eriksen would be absolutely at the bottom of the blame game. He's the one signing who has really over-achieved vs what is expected. But as said, he's playing a lot of football, even when he shouldn't. The persistence of playing 2 attacking midfielders (2 from Bruno/DVB/Eriksen) alongside 3 strikers/wingers away from home has been the undoing. 1 from Bruno/Eriksen away from home. Keeps the other fresh, and keeps the side solid. 11 goals conceded in first halfs .. that is a structural issue.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

For those saying he got the team wrong, who should we have selected instead?

Just smacked off a team short of forward options to me.

mctog - cass - fred

eriksen

martial - rashford

Originally Posted by jem

mctog - cass - fred

eriksen

martial - rashford

Yeah Martial looked electric when he came on. Astonishing that Hag never started him.

Originally Posted by believe

Yeah Martial looked electric when he came on. Astonishing that Hag never started him.

so play garnacho. or elanga. the point is that we would not have had no midfield.

however, on form, martial should have started.

Martial clearly not fit enough to start tbh.

Originally Posted by jem

so play garnacho. or elanga. the point is that we would not have had no midfield.

however, on form, martial should have started.

We’ll never know

Get your point about the midfield though. I know he’s not many options but I do fear sometimes he’s a bit reluctant to change something if it’s worked some time before.

We’re going to need about six players in January with the number of games we’ve got the likes of Varane, Erikssen, Casemiro and Ronaldo are going to be £#%&!ed.

Originally Posted by dunk

Martial clearly not fit enough to start tbh.

shouldn't really be on the bench either, then. add a midfielder, keep pace up front. not donnie and ronaldo.

Originally Posted by jem

shouldn't really be on the bench either, then. add a midfielder, keep pace up front. not donnie and ronaldo.

Needed some minutes to start getting back up to speed, hence on the bench 9 subs available you know…?

Donny won't get too many more chances, looking out of his depth.

Originally Posted by dunk

Needed some minutes to start getting back up to speed, hence on the bench 9 subs available you know…?

whatever. the point here is about playing a midfield.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

He could have played Fred, but then we’d get complaints that he’s playing Fred.

So we play Beek instead?

Erik shouldn’t be worrying about complaints. Ideally, Fred won’t be a long term starter but he won’t stand and watch them repeatedly run through the mf.

I suppose Erik was trying to relieve other players during a killer schedule.

De Gea should have saved the opener, all day.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

So we play Beek instead?

Erik shouldn’t be worrying about complaints. Ideally, Fred won’t be a long term starter but he won’t stand and watch them repeatedly run through the mf.

I suppose Erik was trying to relieve other players during a killer schedule.

To replace Bruno, yes. It allowed Casemiro and Eriksen to stay where they have been playing. Point is, we didn’t have many options. If not Beek, then back to McFred. Fred doesn’t stop teams running through us either, btw. As the last few years have shown. The line up was fine. The performance.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

To replace Bruno, yes. It allowed Casemiro and Eriksen to stay where they have been playing. Point is, we didn’t have many options. If not Beek, then back to McFred. Fred doesn’t stop teams running through us either, btw. As the last few years have shown. The line up was fine. The performance.

Should've played Eriksen for Bruno and Fred beside Case.

I'd play the Scottish player over beek.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

I'd play the Scottish player over beek.

Weirdly; the last 2 or 3 times he’s shovelled McT on it’s been as an advanced midfielder. Can’t understand why he didn’t do that today. He’s got a goal in him, can get about, is a nuisance and can drive forward with the ball, none of which Beek can do. Could switch with Eriksen when necessary too.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

I'd play the Scottish player over beek.

I'd play Dubravka over him at the mo.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

I'd play the Scottish player over beek.

Deffo in a game like today when you know they are going to have a go, cup final, their place, new manager. Shut the shop and nick one. even when we started playing they looked like they could break at any time.

Game was mismanaged, team were tired and a load of the usual under performances. Surprised they didn't push on and look for more.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

To replace Bruno, yes. It allowed Casemiro and Eriksen to stay where they have been playing. Point is, we didn’t have many options. If not Beek, then back to McFred. Fred doesn’t stop teams running through us either, btw. As the last few years have shown. The line up was fine. The performance.

You don't need a midfield full of defensive minded cloggers like The Scottish Player in order to stop teams walking through you. You need positional and defensive discipline and for everyone to do their job. It's a tough ask to press as a team but if 2 or 3 players aren't doing it properly it £#%&!s everything up.

Like in the first 5 mins when lindelof gets pulled up the pitch to virtually the halfway line and lets his man turn him easy leaving an acre of space in behind and de gea makes a piss poor attempt at a save.