Ole out or in part 2

Selective memories dismiss wins down to individual brilliance, yet Fred and Shaw throwing a 3 pts away vs Everton is tactical ineptitude from the manager.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Selective memories dismiss wins down to individual brilliance, yet Fred and Shaw throwing a 3 pts away vs Everton is tactical ineptitude from the manager.

Likewise with previous managers that won trophies in less time whilst kidding oneself that the football we play now is better.

Originally Posted by ryanMUFC

Likewise with previous managers that won trophies in less time whilst kidding oneself that the football we play now is better.

Mourinho was shit pal, get over it.

Originally Posted by dunk

No they didn't. We had Everton pinned back in their own half until they scabbed an equaliser on the break thanks to Fred's ineptitude. Difficult to take the rest all that seriously when he makes such a glaring error.

And one goal is the most we could possibly hope for at the other end?

Everton’s goal should have been a consolation.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Selective memories dismiss wins down to individual brilliance, yet Fred and Shaw throwing a 3 pts away vs Everton is tactical ineptitude from the manager.

er.... relying on individual brilliance and suffering on account of individual mistakes are both signs of the same tactical ineptitude. soz.

Originally Posted by dunk

Mourinho was shit pal, get over it.

History books will suggest he did well taking over LvG madhouse and winning 3 cups. Ole on the other hand, history will judge harshly. Presiding over our longest trophy drought of the modern era. Biggest money spend, awful football, cemented as a laughing stock. Club value falling etc.

Originally Posted by saffers

History books will suggest he did well taking over LvG madhouse and winning 3 cups. Ole on the other hand, history will judge harshly. Presiding over our longest trophy drought of the modern era. Biggest money spend, awful football, cemented as a laughing stock. Club value falling etc.

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. the actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. but the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

Originally Posted by jem

er.... relying on individual brilliance and suffering on account of individual mistakes are both signs of the same tactical ineptitude. soz.

Still people don't get it. Relying on individual brilliance will sometimes let you down, especially when your central midfield has no individual brilliance at all. That in itself is the lack of tactics.

Amazing how so many outsiders - with no apparent axe to grind - can see this so clearly.

Originally Posted by jem

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. the actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. but the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

Yes but enough about saffers and yourself, what about Mourinho and Ole?

Originally Posted by jem

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. the actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. but the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

Exactly.

People still bleating on about Mourinho

Let it go lads.

Just to clarify, this is Danny Blind - a manager/coach who failed to qualify with the Netherlands for Euro 2016, then was sacked during qualifiers for the World Cup 2018. Thanks for your insight, now £#%&! off

Originally Posted by dunk

Mourinho was shit pal, get over it.

Originally Posted by ryanMUFC

Likewise with previous managers that won trophies in less time whilst kidding oneself that the football we play now is better.

Originally Posted by jem

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. the actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. but the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

Spot on.

Originally Posted by dunk

https://injurytime.sport.blog/2021/1...kies-are-grey/

Nice article thanks.

Originally Posted by jem

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. The actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. But the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

100%

Originally Posted by jem

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. the actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. but the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

Mou is in the history books, one of the greatest ever to do it in the game. And undoubtedly our greatest post Ferie manager. Nqat. You may not like him but this is the reality mon frere.

Originally Posted by Coracao

People still bleating on about Mourinho

Let it go lads.

Mou Mou winning and Ole continuing to fail is frying some brains. Love to see it.

Is it sad that his best years were spent knocking us out of europe, yes. But blame ourselves for that. We could have brought him in earlier than 2016. Those losses to Porto and Madrid were quite self inflicted. Move on lads and accept that Mou Mou has added positively to Uniteds history. No need for this crying.

Originally Posted by saffers

This is what the rest of europe thinks of us:

Danny Blind - the father of former Manchester United defender Daley - declared Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is lacking a "tactical plan" and questioned his suitability as manager

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...n-utd-25177355

Blind said: “What is the identity of this Manchester United team? What is his plan?

“It is exactly that what is missing with Solskjaer.

“There is not a tactical plan. His team are not able to put pressure on their opponents like Manchester City.

“It does not always have to be full pressing but we don’t see any of it – everything in the United team is based on the individual qualities of players.

“They have those qualities and it often gets a result for the team. But it is never a team result. It has not been looking good in a number of matches.

“United struggle to be ­dominant – that is the whole problem.”

Like Ronaldo, Blind was ­particularly unimpressed with the display in the 1-1 draw with Everton last weekend.

He added: “After they took the lead against Everton they started to wait for them in their own half.

“They want to score on the counter. But that is not good enough for a club like ­Manchester United.

“The next thing that you see is how they struggle to turn the game around when ­Everton equalised. They hardly created any chances.

“The results are not good. He lost against Young Boys, against West Ham in the cup, against Aston Villa and they were lucky against Villarreal because of Ronaldo’s quality.

“Against Everton, ­another draw.

“And they only just got away with that result.

“It has to improve and it can improve. We cannot say that Solskjaer has had a long career at top level as a manager before United.
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Meanwhile we are about to hand the entire coaching team 3 year deals and give someone like Harry maguire £300k a week to make it impossible to sell him once Ole leaves.

Fair comment, we seem to be rewarding failure too.

Originally Posted by saffers

Mou is in the history books, one of the greatest ever to do it in the game. And undoubtedly our greatest post Ferie manager. Nqat. You may not like him but this is the reality mon frere.

what gave you the impression I don't like him?

the reality is that winning is not enough. we have to win in style.

Originally Posted by jem

history will acknowledge that mourinho was a terrible fit for united and that ole had to repair the damage. the actual line behind winning a trophy and not is very thin, as we saw in the europa final. but the difference between being a whining, all-about-me, anti-football smug @#%&! and a decent guy making mistakes is a £#%&!ing chasm. £#%&! mourinho and £#%&! anyone who sees anything positive about him, his record or his approach to the game.

Originally Posted by dunk

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Zorg

Spot on.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

100%

Me too. Jem nails it.

Originally Posted by redhegemony

Me too. Jem nails it.

tbh, nailing mou being a dick isn't really a thing, though. you'd have to be insane not to see it.