10 Hag should be sacked tonight

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

A far more successful manager than Erik unless you count Erik winning the Dutch equivalent of the Scottish prem with rangers or Celtic.

Tactically revered, has turned Villa from a relegation side to top 4 in 18 months. In the same period, Erik has turned us from a top 4 team to a mid table team struggling against Brentford and Bournemouth.

At this point, would take him in a heart beat. Genuinely.

That's great mate... Appreciate your opinion.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

That's great mate... Appreciate your opinion.

Bunks, give us 5 performance related positives about EtH which we should make us all clamour for him to stay. Nothing to do with the owners - just the positives about how we play etc.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

Bunks, give us 5 performance related positives about EtH which we should make us all clamour for him to stay. Nothing to do with the owners - just the positives about how we play etc.

Is this my £#%&!ing mid year appraisal ? I can lead you to water, I can't make you drink....

If you haven't enjoyed the shut up shop at Anfield, the fa cup last minute winner, the box crasher come backs, the garnacho over head kick, beating those bastard Geordies at Wembley, the promotion and faith in youth, etc etcetera....

Then I can't help you....

You were close only 7 months ago, you had his back....

. Finishing position - 2nd
Champions League exit / finish - Quarters
Highest scorer - Hojlund
Best signing - Onana
Biggest first team flop - Martial
Carling cup - out early
Fa cup - win
Shock of the season - no serious injuries in the first 2 months

The AntiEtH-ultra really did a number on you....

Keep the faith, naaaah bin it....

We knew that any manager who attempted to provide a cultural reboot, who tried to raise the standards and maintain them, would meet with resistance in the dressing room. This was accepted unanimously on here when Ole got the sack - even Rangnick, who Is held in high regard by some on here, said as much in his inspirational press conferences.

Sure enough, exactly that happens, and what do you chumps do? You blame the manager.

You deserve everything you get.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

We knew that any manager who attempted to provide a cultural reboot, who tried to raise the standards and maintain them, would meet with resistance in the dressing room. This was accepted unanimously on here when Ole got the sack - even Rangnick, who Is held in high regard by some on here, said as much in his inspirational press conferences.

Sure enough, exactly that happens, and what do you chumps do? You blame the manager.

You deserve everything you get.

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But If Erik gets a reprieve , he’ll be the first manager to get the club’s support

Originally Posted by NedKelly

We knew that any manager who attempted to provide a cultural reboot, who tried to raise the standards and maintain them, would meet with resistance in the dressing room. This was accepted unanimously on here when Ole got the sack - even Rangnick, who Is held in high regard by some on here, said as much in his inspirational press conferences.

Sure enough, exactly that happens, and what do you chumps do? You blame the manager.

You deserve everything you get.

Which one is it though? Bunks says there have been loads of amazing moments on the pitch so were the players just up for it in them games but decided to not be on board for certain games?

Originally Posted by believe

Which one is it though? Bunks says there have been loads of amazing moments on the pitch so were the players just up for it in them games but decided to not be on board for certain games?

It's a process and ever single one of you have dropped him after 7 months.....

No one is denying there's been some awful displays this season, he's not above blame, but if you can't see the problems he's had out of his control this season then I'm not sure what you watch....

66 injuries
35 different back 4's
Insubordination from his winger and striker
Etc etcetera

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

It's a process and ever single one of you have dropped him after 7 months.....

No one is denying there's been some awful displays this season, he's not above blame, but if you can't see the problems he's had out of his control this season then I'm not sure what you watch....

66 injuries
35 different back 4's
Insubordination from his winger and striker
Etc etcetera

Not sure which one you’re leaving out : Rashford, Sancho or Martial?

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Is this my £#%&!ing mid year appraisal ? I can lead you to water, I can't make you drink....

If you haven't enjoyed the shut up shop at Anfield, the fa cup last minute winner, the box crasher come backs, the garnacho over head kick, beating those bastard Geordies at Wembley, the promotion and faith in youth, etc etcetera....

Then I can't help you....

You were close only 7 months ago, you had his back....



The AntiEtH-ultra really did a number on you....

Keep the faith, naaaah bin it....

And I really wanted the guy to succeed, I like him.

But this season has been disgusting. We've been 90% unwatchable. We've had some great moments in games, then we've been absolutely £#%&! again in the next.

How can that team not pass a ball or let teams wander through at will? We beat Luton but (like most teams we play) if they took their chances, it'd have been a humiliation. It's just not United.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

Bunks, give us 5 performance related positives about EtH which we should make us all clamour for him to stay. Nothing to do with the owners - just the positives about how we play etc.

Efficiency, turnover, profitability. Streamlining the whole ongoing enterprise..

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

And I really wanted the guy to succeed, I like him.

But this season has been disgusting. We've been 90% unwatchable. We've had some great moments in games, then we've been absolutely £#%&! again in the next.

How can that team not pass a ball or let teams wander through at will? We beat Luton but (like most teams we play) if they took their chances, it'd have been a humiliation. It's just not United.

You gave him 7 months....


Made your bed ..

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

And I really wanted the guy to succeed, I like him.

But this season has been disgusting. We've been 90% unwatchable. We've had some great moments in games, then we've been absolutely £#%&! again in the next.

How can that team not pass a ball or let teams wander through at will? We beat Luton but (like most teams we play) if they took their chances, it'd have been a humiliation. It's just not United.

10% watchable is pretty generous.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

You gave him 7 months....


Made your bed ..

How long have I been asleep? Thought he started 2022…

they say anything about ETH getting the best out of what he has got….

We are gonna finish about 8/9th ffs

Originally Posted by NedKelly

We knew that any manager who attempted to provide a cultural reboot, who tried to raise the standards and maintain them, would meet with resistance in the dressing room. This was accepted unanimously on here when Ole got the sack - even Rangnick, who Is held in high regard by some on here, said as much in his inspirational press conferences.

Sure enough, exactly that happens, and what do you chumps do? You blame the manager.

You deserve everything you get.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

It's a process and ever single one of you have dropped him after 7 months.....

No one is denying there's been some awful displays this season, he's not above blame, but if you can't see the problems he's had out of his control this season then I'm not sure what you watch....

66 injuries
35 different back 4's
Insubordination from his winger and striker
Etc etcetera

I feel like a Farmfoods Ethers on this issue, tbh.

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

How long have I been asleep? Thought he started 2022…

They were magics predictions for this season, there's a fair few outers' posting big things pre season but now have turned on their manager ...

It's interesting to read / see ..

Our league position relates directly to the injuries and changes he's been FORCED to make ..

We had an 18 year old centre back getting turned inside out for both goals at the weekend ... Do we give that lad time or get rid ?

Where did patience and hard times make hard people go ?

In 7 months...

It's been absolutely abysmal this season but I want him to get one more. At some point we need to stick with it instead of constantly chopping and changing.

Although I suspect he's been told he's off tbh.

Originally Posted by Zorg

It's been absolutely abysmal this season but I want him to get one more. At some point we need to stick with it instead of constantly chopping and changing.

Although I suspect he's been told he's off tbh.

I concur

Originally Posted by NedKelly

We knew that any manager who attempted to provide a cultural reboot, who tried to raise the standards and maintain them, would meet with resistance in the dressing room. This was accepted unanimously on here when Ole got the sack - even Rangnick, who Is held in high regard by some on here, said as much in his inspirational press conferences.

Sure enough, exactly that happens, and what do you chumps do? You blame the manager.

You deserve everything you get.

that's a bit simplistic, nedders.

everyone blames city cheating, the glazers, the players, bad luck and the manager. they all need changing.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

We knew that any manager who attempted to provide a cultural reboot, who tried to raise the standards and maintain them, would meet with resistance in the dressing room. This was accepted unanimously on here when Ole got the sack - even Rangnick, who Is held in high regard by some on here, said as much in his inspirational press conferences.

Sure enough, exactly that happens, and what do you chumps do? You blame the manager.

You deserve everything you get.

This… well in Nedward

I can’t stop laughing at the posts that moan on and on that Manchester United FC struggle against Bournemouth or Brighton….clubs that have had a philosophy and buying strategy for years….. that new coaches walk into and run with, squads that are physically suited to PL demands with players that aren’t laughingly brushed off the ball and out of possession

I’d swap our squad for theirs tomorrow…. Only Lisandro Mainoo Rasmus and poss Bruno for effort and Kamblwala would survive. Aint seen enough of Mount. The rest….. where they aren’t £#%&!ing @#%&!… are too lightweight.

It’s been said plenty times how it’s a squad four different types of Manager built. Now he’s had to try and polish the turd for two seasons.

They have definitely downed tools…. They know they couldn’t down tools in the Vermin games and look what happened….. you can’t be determined one week and not the next like has just been seen

I would rather take another season of Erik grafting to sort it than let player power fester on. If Erik does go then Ratcliffe will get more respect if the likes of Rashford and Sancho are not just shown the door but are publicly humiliated for their antics at the exact same time