Bale and Kroos

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

Vidic. .Evra signed before the gimps..,Gimp

Precisely his point

Didn't they actually sign midway through the 2005/06 season?

They did indeed.

So his point was wrong and so was ziggy's criticism of it

Originally Posted by Neo

Both top players, especially Kroos, but £#%&! me, how about we show some imagination in the market and try and get some young stars that we can grow and develop, rather than players approaching the winter of their careers and looking for their last big pay day?

The Mourinho Virus is going to do so much damage to us long-term. Lumbering us with a load of geriatrics whilst destroying the development of our youngsters. Lots to look forward to.

It’s easier to do so when the young players are surrounded by top pros, whilst coming into an established successful team with leaders around them. Schmeichel, Bruce, Keane, Cantona for example.

I see no evidence of any youngsters who’s development has been destroyed.

Originally Posted by Lazlo Panaflex

Isn't modric open to leaving for inter ffs? Probably too small for the broken one.

Have you seen fred?

Originally Posted by flixton

So we must have £100m burning a hole in our pocket.

Only for commerciallly valuable players. That’s the department which runs the club post Fergie. Even then, it will probably be borrowed.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

We were in a position of power as champions in 2013 with an ageing defence and attack to replace. Look how that turned out.

That’s not a position of power.

Fergie wasn't buying a bunch of soon to be 30 year olds when he was losing out to Chelsea in the seasons running up to 2007.

Because he already had a shit tonne of them.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

We were in a position of power as champions in 2013 with an ageing defence and attack to replace. Look how that turned out.

Fergie wasn't buying a bunch of soon to be 30 year olds when he was losing out to Chelsea in the seasons running up to 2007.

See above post , also he did go after RVP to add another title after that QPR title win. Berba wasn't a kid when he was bought.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

I see no evidence of any youngsters who’s development has been destroyed.

Shaw, Bailly, Lindelof, Pogba, Martial, Rashford.

Please tell me which of these players are fulfilling their potential and developing under the current manger.

I suppose you think it's all the players fault, though? I could perhaps see that argument if it was one or two, but not when it's all six.

Originally Posted by andyroo

They did indeed.

So his point was wrong and so was ziggy's criticism of it

They signed January 05, gimps took over may 05

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

They signed January 05, gimps took over may 05

06 pal.

Originally Posted by AK14

06 pal.

My mistake thought it was 05,, does not change the fact that the gimps are horrible bastards..

Originally Posted by andyroo

They did indeed.

So his point was wrong and so was ziggy's criticism of it

My point was that when he was building his last great team, he wasn't buying 29 year olds, including the initial period after the Glazers took over.

See above post , also he did go after RVP to add another title after that QPR title win. Berba wasn't a kid when he was bought.

Fergie's transfers after 2007 have contributed to our current predicament, that's why I made the distinction.

Originally Posted by Neo

Shaw, Bailly, Lindelof, Pogba, Martial, Rashford.

Please tell me which of these players are fulfilling their potential and developing under the current manger.

I suppose you think it's all the players fault, though? I could perhaps see that argument if it was one or two, but not when it's all six.

Players fulfil potential as they age. It doesn’t happen overnight. As for developing - Bailly, Pogba and Rashford. Will see the benefit this season. Can add lukaku and lingard to that. Even if you disagree that they’re developing, they’re certainly not being destroyed. Shaw and martial is entirely down to them. Lindelof I have no idea. He’s got no worse. Still picked for his country. So not destroyed.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

My point was that when he was building his last great team, he wasn't buying 29 year olds, including the initial period after the Glazers took over.

Again, because he already had a lot of players that age. Besides, top players that age cost a lot to buy and we were shopping in the value bin.

Giggs, Scholes and...?

He cleared Keane and Van Nistelrooy out.

Is this the same source that said our £50 million Brazilian international midfielder can't trap a ball?

Originally Posted by Jethro

Is this the same source that said our £50 million Brazilian international midfielder can't trap a ball?

Christ; you really are a humour vacuum aren’t you? Go and £#%&! your greyhound you boring £#%&!ing @#%&!.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

My point was that when he was building his last great team, he wasn't buying 29 year olds, including the initial period after the Glazers took over.



Fergie's transfers after 2007 have contributed to our current predicament, that's why I made the distinction.

He won 4 titles with players he signed post '07, we've spent £600million since he left on players in every position on the pitch and yet 5 of the players he signed post '07 are still regular starters, explain exactly how you think that means Fergie contributed to our current predicament.

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

Christ; you really are a humour vacuum aren’t you? Go and £#%&! your greyhound you boring £#%&!ing @#%&!.