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Have we had a player since Ronaldo who's actually improved under coaching at the club?
Nani had a stellar end to 09/10 and was a regular match winner in 10/11 til his injury. De Gea improved considerably. That's it? Other players who looked promising at the beginning just regressed; Anderson, Cleverley, Evans, Welbeck, Depay. It's not a new trend with Mourinho. Bring Quieroz back |
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dont really see where the debate or argument is here. Mourinho is a great coach but currently he's unable develop the small crop of talented players we have and take them to next level, not sure why that's pissing some of you lot off so much. transfers are transfers, bad luck can happen and you can never account for the player(s) themselves not rising to the occassion or settling in at the club/country, but to suggest Martial and co are just shit it's a bit of a easy cop-out imo. Mourinho isn't 100% to blame but we're right to question him. Quote:
of course, it's not an easy thing to do no-ones denying that, but a lot of those good/average players SAF depended at times would have probably been success regardless, because they had the right mindset and could ultimately rise to the challenge of playing for a big club week in week out. it's hard to identify that kind of player, so that's why great coaches are lauded so much because everyone knows its a specific type of skillset not all coaches have. |
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Memphis is an interesting one, as he appears to be bouncing back quite quickly with Lyon. It looks as if he could get another shot at the big time. He struggled under Van Gaal, but who knows what would have happened. Maybe he'd have done better in his second season. Blind was excellent at CB in 15-16. One of the few senior players who was consistently at a high level. As for Rashford's minutes on the field, how many as a striker? In the position he exploded in. That's the frustrating part for him I expect. I do wonder if he looks at Lukaku and thinks that with the time and patience he could do much better long term. Still only 20. Quote:
Again, it could just be bad luck, but City's young players are progressing, developing. Ours aren't. That is simply a fact, surely? |
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Let's be fair. He's stuck with poor players he inherited from his predecessors. Mkhi, lindelof and lukaku. |
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This is the biggest problem, most managers very very occasionally dig a player out in publi, Mourinho has thrown someone under the bus every other week, he's almost done it more in one and half seasons than I remember Fergie doing in 20 odd, I think we're starting to see the effects on the pitch, and it looks a lot like 2015 Chelsea. |
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we don't need a manager having constant digs at players and then reacting like a women and doing the footballing version of 'not speaking to them' and leaving them out the next game... this is a football team not SAS trials. no need to test the character of players, he needs to work with them. mikky t and luke shaw are two players he has been way over the top with. he also loves 'punishing' martial but would never punish fellani or Alex hunter for shit performances./ |
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I've long believed he does it so explicitly because he doesn't have a playing career to point to. So he hems in on intangibles like 'mentality' and 'courage' more so than football skillsets. AvB was the same at Chelsea but he didn't have the force of personality Mourinho has to get away with it. Didn't help him that only a few years back he was a Chelsea scout who was pally with the players he later tried to phase out. |
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