The Scottish Player

Originally Posted by believe

Can’t see Erik making it a permanent option.

Pleased for the lad and good timing that his confidence us up when we’re probably going to need him most.

That was quick, I thought it would be at least ten minutes before someone finished that. Can you play upfront?

I’ve never really understood some of the hate The Scottish Player gets. As with other players, he’s not at the level needed to be starting every week for us, but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. Can’t remember who it was, but the other week someone said he was so bad he doesn’t even belong in the Premier League ffs

He was a good squad player at best. He's gone backwards though imo.

Originally Posted by Ethers

That was quick, I thought it would be at least ten minutes before someone finished that. Can you play upfront?

I’ve never really understood some of the hate The Scottish Player gets. As with other players, he’s not at the level needed to be starting every week for us, but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. Can’t remember who it was, but the other week someone said he was so bad he doesn’t even belong in the Premier League ffs

Agree with that. Showed some promise, hasn't fulfilled it. Not had much of a chance so far to show any progress under ETH yet, although going off his recent international form he probably deserves a chance now.

If he can become a valuable squad player going forward then surely that's a good thing.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

He was a good squad player at best. He's gone backwards though imo.

I don’t know if he’s gone backwards, but not playing regularly is obviously going to affect him somewhat. I think it’s more of a case of someone who looked like a decent squad player, looking a bit worse now because the quality of our starting midfielders has improved dramatically.

Under Ole, there wasn’t really much difference between any of our midfielders. Now, we have 2 genuinely world class starters, so you’re going to see a drop off when a squad player comes in.

Originally Posted by Ethers

That was quick, I thought it would be at least ten minutes before someone finished that. Can you play upfront?

I’ve never really understood some of the hate The Scottish Player gets. As with other players, he’s not at the level needed to be starting every week for us, but he’s nowhere near as bad as some people make out. Can’t remember who it was, but the other week someone said he was so bad he doesn’t even belong in the Premier League ffs

Yup.

As dunk said he’s far better playing further forward than he is as a holding midfielder (because he isn’t one).

Originally Posted by Ethers

I don’t know if he’s gone backwards, but not playing regularly is obviously going to affect him somewhat. I think it’s more of a case of someone who looked like a decent squad player, looking a bit worse now because the quality of our starting midfielders has improved dramatically.

Under Ole, there wasn’t really much difference between any of our midfielders. Now, we have 2 genuinely world class starters, so you’re going to see a drop off when a squad player comes in.

The problem with The Scottish Player is that he was basically an automatic pick for so long because our midfield was woefully understaffed. Familiartiy bred a bit of contempt. He's not terrible, at all, but he is definitely not good enough to be a regular in a United side that wants to win trophies.

I also can't readily identiy what kind of midfielder he is - DM? Box to Box? AM? His best performances for us always seem to be when he has been able to drive forward. Defensively he's not good enough to be a screen for the defense.

I'd have no problem with him being kept in the squad but I suspect he'll end up at a lower PL team as a first team choice.

Originally Posted by Patty_b

Agree with that. Showed some promise, hasn't fulfilled it. Not had much of a chance so far to show any progress under ETH yet, although going off his recent international form he probably deserves a chance now.

If he can become a valuable squad player going forward then surely that's a good thing.

He can't play deep, so playing in the role that Bruno fulfils means he's £#%&!ed - Bruno literally plays the most minutes of any player in Europe so either he adapts (not happening) or he finds somewhere else to play for. The fact he could be a £30m+ asset just sat on the bench ready to come on & play shit as a defensive midfielder, or never further forward, means he should just go & we spend that money on a right back or another Eriksen type smart signing.

he is one of the worst players in our squad including players loaned out.
a disgusting coward of a player.
he isn't premiership quality. if so maybe a relegation fighting team.

He seems to be alright around the penalty box. Certainly better than he is at being a midfielder, which he's absolutely rubbish at.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

The problem with The Scottish Player is that he was basically an automatic pick for so long because our midfield was woefully understaffed. Familiartiy bred a bit of contempt. He's not terrible, at all, but he is definitely not good enough to be a regular in a United side that wants to win trophies.

I also can't readily identiy what kind of midfielder he is - DM? Box to Box? AM? His best performances for us always seem to be when he has been able to drive forward. Defensively he's not good enough to be a screen for the defense.

I'd have no problem with him being kept in the squad but I suspect he'll end up at a lower PL team as a first team choice.

Sell the useless @#%&! and buy Sabitzer for half the price. No brainer upgrade.

26 year old midfielder who hides from the ball when out of possession, cant hold his position, cant tackle , isn't intelligent enough think ahead and anticipate what is going to happen and be there when it does like Carrick but yeah he isn't so bad

he is shit . the actual definition of shit. a shit midfielder and we'd love to play against him and/also love if he was coming on against us.

he scored a few goals in the week for Scotland and ironically the ones saying 'we've been to hard on him' are using goal scoring to pat him on the back. the other polarising opinion of the same clowns In addidition to this would lead you to question why 'certain' players are praised for various irrelevant aspects of their game which are not in the essential job description of their deployed position
I know what it is.

Originally Posted by marlo

he is one of the worst players in our squad including players loaned out.
a disgusting coward of a player.
he isn't premiership quality. if so maybe a relegation fighting team.

We need marlo next to Roy Keane on Super Sunday.

Originally Posted by windy waffles

We need marlo next to Roy Keane on Super Sunday.

He’s too busy at church allegedly.

Marlo: “The Scottish Player doesn’t even play for Scotland in midfield”

The Scottish Player scores two for Scotland from midfield

‘Marlo: “Weghorst!”

He is a championship level player. Needs selling this summer.

Originally Posted by Tuco

He is a championship level player. Needs selling this summer.

He has his limits, but this notion he isn’t even up to league standard is ridiculous.

There’s quite a few levels between Manchester United quality and the Championship.

Originally Posted by Tuco

He is a championship level player. Needs selling this summer.

Nonsense

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

He has his limits, but this notion he isn’t even up to league standard is ridiculous.

There’s quite a few levels between Manchester United quality and the Championship.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Marlo: “The Scottish Player doesn’t even play for Scotland in midfield”

The Scottish Player scores two for Scotland from midfield

‘Marlo: “Weghorst!”

so how it’s a string to his now that he plays for Scotland in midfield? That’s wasn’t important when he wasn’t… funny that.

also he is not premiership standard.

let’s pick three run of the mill premiership teams. villa, Brentford, Brighton.
you think that coward starts for them in CDM?

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

There’s quite a few levels between Manchester United quality and the Championship.

not really

The difference is closing down players apparantly.

championship player + run around closing down the opposition = Manchester United striker? No?

Originally Posted by marlo

so how it’s a string to his now that he plays for Scotland in midfield? That’s wasn’t important when he wasn’t… funny that.

also he is not premiership standard.

let’s pick three run of the mill premiership teams. villa, Brentford, Brighton.
you think that coward starts for them in CDM?

It’s not a string. I’m not defending or condemning him. Just pointing out yet another instance where you’re wrong.

Remember when you said he wouldn’t play 5 games under Rangnick and then started the next five games?

Why does it have to be CDM, btw?

That’s not where he’s most effective. You know he’s linked to Newcastle and not Preston, right?

More than happy to take a bet with anyone that, if he leaves this summer, he doesn’t drop down to the championship.