Ole

Originally Posted by Switching Off

Then took it back

he was hardly going to ride it up the main street in Wilmslow.

He just didnt realise what the deal is when you are gifted a part share in a horse

Originally Posted by dunk

He'd have agitated, they'd have completed the takeover then replaced him. Simple as that.

Absolutely bollox . He was integral to there deal they had him
Over to Florida more than once .

If the most successful manager ever says no everyone is going to listen . The clubs finances were built on success masterminded by Him.

Look what happens when u change managers ?

we were still the self proclaimed biggest club in the world before fergie came.

He probably went over to Florida to re-interview for his job, its what the Yanks do when they acquire companies.

Originally Posted by Seamus

we were still the self proclaimed biggest club in the world before fergie came.

He probably went over to Florida to re-interview for his job, its what the Yanks do when they acquire companies.

Did he £#%&!. Their financing was tied in to Fergie staying in the job. They’ve not spent a penny on the club. They remortgaged their malls to raise the initial money then financed the rest through massive leveraging, hiding the accounts in a secret-friendly US state where they don’t have to disclose much.

Originally Posted by Seamus

he was hardly going to ride it up the main street in Wilmslow.

He just didnt realise what the deal is when you are gifted a part share in a horse

He definitely looked in its mouth

Originally Posted by believe

He definitely looked in its mouth

we could always hoof it down the middle

Originally Posted by marlo

a good manager can make the most of what he has.

burnley who are probably the worst footballing Side in the league had better passages of play than us.
2nd half they started actually stringing passes together purposefully and exploiting our weaknesses.
thats down to the manager.
even commentators are saying we don't know what to do. we get up to the final third and start crossing the ball or just passing it between us until a player who isn't good on the ball gets it and passes it backwards...

our manager should have us playing a system and looking like he half know what we are doing.

thats not the glazers fault.

absolutely spot on.

Originally Posted by Zorg

The dreaded vote of confidence. Sacked by Feb.

hopefully

Get Big Sam in. Should have followed Fergie anyway.

Originally Posted by marlo

lets not invent things please.

ole said he was happy with the squad so thats what we go with.

this is why Mourinho was a better man. he let us know he wasn't happy.
last preseason was on the phone in the lobby of the hotel saying everything is 'shit' which is was..

if ole says he is happy then we have to judge him on the squad he was happy to go into the season with.
then theres the fact why wouldn't he be happy. he is in a job he doesn't deserve, a job that's at a level he would never possibly get close to getting again.
a job he hasn't proved himself to be capable of doing .

we have a amateur at a wheel and your only kidding yourself making excuses for him.
and as the excuses keep coming...he runs out the shade you guys cover him with to be exposed even more...

-we don't beat the big teams anymore
-the high press he said he'd integrate pre season lasted 2/3 games in august
-the tactics are nowhere to be season
-the squad is not fitter that before he took over
-no one can point to anything on the footballing side that he has improved
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last night was a new low, sadly it's gonna get even worse till he £#%&!s off

Originally Posted by Chester Road

last night was a new low, sadly it's gonna get even worse till he £#%&!s off

Harsh on Marlo

But fair

Originally Posted by Child of Darkness

Harsh on Marlo

But fair

"A good manager can make the most of what he has" - so in that case, neither LvG or JM were "good managers"?

And they had BETTER PLAYERS available than is the case now.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

"A good manager can make the most of what he has" - so in that case, neither LvG or JM were "good managers"?

And they had BETTER PLAYERS available than is the case now.

do you mean the players Ole is getting credit for getting rid of?

Originally Posted by silv

do you mean the players Ole is getting credit for getting rid of?

he should have kept Lukaku for a start as he'd have scored a lot more than lazy half arsed @#%&! Martial

Originally Posted by Chester Road

he should have kept Lukaku for a start as he'd have scored a lot more than lazy half arsed @#%&! Martial

Got a death wish pal? Agree btw.

Originally Posted by ryanMUFC

Got a death wish pal? Agree btw.

X2

Originally Posted by dunk

Would've made it cheaper for the takeover?

Of course but then surely a bit more longer term risk would have factored in for them. Surely SAF being there and keeping united up there was important at the time.

Originally Posted by Chester Road

he should have kept Lukaku for a start as he'd have scored a lot more than lazy half arsed @#%&! Martial

I agree... Sort of. But it's a bit revisionist, isn't it? People (rightly) complained endlessly about Lukaku the lump, the man who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo and kept falling over the ball, but when it was briefed that Mourinho wanted to sell Martial there was an angry mob forming that was adamant that it was Mourinho who couldn't get the best out of Martial, that he was being mis-managed and that he was the future of the club.

Once again Jose has been proved right about a player .

Martial, Raahford and Greenwood have around the same goals as Salah, Firmino and Manè.

We have a lot of problems, those three are not them.

I wouldn't swap Martial for Lukaku. Nothing has changed on that front.