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youre pissing in the wind Sven.....ive never had an answer out of TT that makes any sense......save yourself the bother ....... |
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right back again now... apologies for having other stuff to do etc...
it's hardly a yes or no answer is it now. firstly you'd need to outline precisely what you think their business plan is. you'd then need me to assume that you are in fact correct. strictly for the purposes of a yes or no answer, let us suppose that their plan is to use other people's money to make themselves a few hundred million quid over x amount of years. in this sense their business plan is obviously viable. tellingly, the other people involved are also using other people's money and their plan has proved viable already, in that they have creamed hundreds of millions of quid off united in the first five years with barely a squeak in their direction out of the united faithful. |
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it is also viable given the assumptions you've set out above, since you say that the only thing that prevented them making a loss was the way they conducted their business. the fact that you call your claims facts is another major problem with your position though, if I may say so. Ronaldo was going to be sold, whether it was last summer, this summer or whenever. therefore that money was always going to put money on the balance sheet, if we assume that that was where the transfer money was earmarked to go all along. do you follow? as for ticket prices being hiked? well again, that was always going to happen. and part of the uncomfortable truth aboutb that is that ticket prices have always been kept at artificially low prices at United in the context of their market position in the world of the whole new ball game %@#$&!s that has rolled further and further up its own arse since 1992. how about you answer a simple question for me now: what specific commitments would you like to see from any prospective new owners regarding bringing tickets back into line with where they would be had they continued to rise at pre glazer levels? |
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Are you saying that the Glazers business plan as far as Utd go is viable providing they sell our most valuable player each year? Because that is the crux of the matter, just how far they will go to ensure they maintain ownership of the club, regardless of what it does to the team Why are you prattling on about prospective owners plans for ticket prices? It is completely irrelevant in this context as we are owned by the Glazers and they have said the club isn't for sale Are you an FC'er TT (not having a go, just intrigued) |
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He wants a yes or no answer but doesn't know how to ask the right question Why he thinks I'd have the right answer anyway is another question altogether. Why does he give a £#%&! what my answer is anyway is still another one, of course. Ticket prices are a key part of the whole argument imo. Which is a big part of why it is so utterly baffling that people so vehemently opposed to the current ownership's ticket policy don't seem to give a flying £#%&! what prospective new owners would do differently in that regard. FCer? Not really. Now and again. |
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As you say the prices have been kept low for some time, as such I would be quite happy to pay my £37 as long as I knew it wasn't being leeched out as it currently is |
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As a contributor to that stream, I resent the fact that the Glazers are using it to add to their coffers as and how they please Whichever way you try and spin it, glazer ownership is worse than even PLC 'ownership' at least under a PLC the dividend was a set amount of the club profit Profit, remember those days |
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i don't justify their claimed ownership at all. why would i?
if we have to sell to stay in the black then of course that would "knacker us". i don't see it that that is the case, though. it's interesting that you speak about the idea that the government may have intervened and stopped the takeover, and it's interesting that you speak about your expectations upon being lent money by a bank. the glazers didn't own United when the banks lent them the money though, that's a big difference in my opinion. the bank's/hedge's motivation was purely driven by the opportunity to use them to get at the untapped revenue streams of the world's leading sporting institutions. i agree fully that it would be nice to think a government should have the authority to arbitrarily step in in the public interest and stop that happening. in a not entirely disimilar vein, i'm looking forward to seeing how the US administration's apparent suggestion today that BP may be forced to withhold any payment of dividends to its shareholders pans out. |
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i seriously doubt that the money lending industry would call getting their fingers into the united pie to the tune of hundreds of millions of quid "a stupid mistake" either btw |
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And the knife analogy is just silly. |
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