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My point was broadly about the Premier League, how they're useless, corrupt and how their fit and proper ownership test is £#%&!ing worthless, and it's the fans that suffer as a result. It was not a point about the sale of Everton the club. You seem to have latched onto that part of my post and ran a mile with it in the wrong direction. Although it's probably worth mentioning that my inlaws are lifelong match going Evertonians, with some of them working within the club itself, or have a history of working within the club. I'm not sure how strong the Everton fan base is in Florida, but from what I have heard from fans that go to the games and work in the club over the past couple of years is that they've not been happy with Moshiri and Kenwright, and the general direction of the club, despite the promise of a new stadium that most have been worried would never end up being finished and plunge the club into an even bigger financial crises. They're also not happy about the prospect of the new owners, but the fact that they're not kicking up a big stink over the sale of a club to an unknown US investment firm does put some perspective on what they think of the ownership under Moshiri, doesn't it? If you want to tell me what Evertonians think of the club from over 4000 miles away then crack on, but I am going to ignore it for obvious reasons. |
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If you cannot accept that there's only so much information you can gleam from googling stuff 4000 miles away, and that someone else with real life connections to the club and it's fans might have more experience with fan sentiment, then that's your problem, not mine. Don't burn the Turkey. Quote:
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You suggested it’s unfair to punish Everton because they might be getting different owners to the ones responsible for the issues that have caused them to get convicted. But what about the other clubs that have suffered as a result of Everton spending beyond their means, and their fans? |
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I don’t think ‘it’s unfair on the fans’ is much of an argument, because how would clubs ever be punished for wrongdoing? You could say it’s unfair on Barnsley fans they’ve been kicked out of the Cup, as it’s not their fault the club fielded an ineligible player. |
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United fans have been pissed off for years with how the Premier League has turned a blind eye to the likes of City, imagine if we were then given the Premier Leagues biggest ever punishment because our @#%&! owners £#%&!ed up our spending? I'd be pissed off at them too. |
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I read this “Can fully understand Evertonians anger at this, it was their previous ownership that has got them in this £#%&!ed up position, the same ownership that a lot of Everton fans have been protesting against for years. Then the owner that got them into this mess flogged the club to an investment firm and £#%&!ed off before this punishment hit. What £#%&!ing good does that do?” And it feels like you don’t agree with them being punished, but that could just have been my reading of it. I don’t see how they can complain about the punishment tbh. If they’re guilty, which they’ve admitted, then they surely need to recognise that without breaking the rules, they’d more than likely have been relegated? How is a 10 point deduction unduly harsh when you look at the advantage they’ve gained through breaking the rules? |
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But from a fan perspective, it does feel as though the Premier League are happy to jump on and make an example of smaller clubs that are already struggling financially under piss poor ownership, making their situation even more dire. All while twiddling their thumbs when it comes to clubs that break the same rules but are backed by oil states and reckless billionaires, and their armies of lawyers. Not to forget that all this started because Leeds asked the Premier League to investigate it. If that doesn't change some opinions, I don't know what will. |
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Of course, none of those owners were flagged as not being fit and/or proper. |
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Pts deduction to Everton is completely reasonable. The only difference between Everton & City/Chelsea, really, is that Everton had an inept football recruitment structure underpinning it all. Their fans were gagging for the owners when they first started flashing the cash.
£200 million on Iwobi, Bolasie, Mina, Sigurdsson, Michael Keane & Cenk Tosun FFS. Everton completely aimed to play the system. Just because they're comically inept does not absolve them of responsibility & need for punishment. |
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Yaaaay! Utd are now being mentioned in connection with this. Everton fans not happy (were they ever?) that Utd & Wolves were found guilty & fined by UEFA of some financial %@#$&!s but weren't investigated by the PL.
In July, United were fined £257,000 for breaking financial regulations between 2019 and 2022. In 2020, Wolves were fined £175,000 for similar breaches. £20,000,000 fine incoming, 175 point deduction & lifetime ban for Evra. |
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