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Unread 11-02-2008, 12:12 PM
Fountz
 
Exclamation Old Trafford, Capacity 93,202 ??

Never seen this breakdown before ( shown below ), and therefore I don't know how accurate it is, however if United were to run the second tier of the East and West stand around over the South Stand.. that's what I'd calculate the capacity to be.

I work on the premise that they'd reconfigure the existing South Stand like the North Stand..

Technically you should reduce the figure slightly to allow for the inevitable increased media and VIP facilities and the enlarged Disabled section which I believe is supposed to be a proportion of total capacity, however to counter this drop, I haven't including the numbers from the additional executive boxes.

Old Trafford total capacity: 76,212
(capacity numbers are not exact figures)
North Stand: 25,500 = 102 rows of seats
Lower: 4,250 = 17 rows
Upper: 8,000 = 32 rows
2nd tier: 8,250 = 34 rows
3rd tier: 5,000 = 19 rows
East Stand: 11,500 = 89 rows
East Stand lower: 1,500 = 17 rows (disabled section)
East Stand upper: 4,000 = 32 rows
East 2nd Tier: 6000 = 40 rows
West Stand: 12,000 = 89 rows
West Stand lower: 2,000 = 17 rows
West Stand upper: 4,000 = 32 rows
West 2nd Tier: 6000 = 40 rows
South Stand: 11,500 = 48 rows
Lower: 2,500 = 11 rows
Upper: 8,500 = 37 rows
Lower corners: 1,500 = 48 rows x 4
Upper North East Quadrant: 4,000 = 33 rows (maximum)
Upper North West Quadrant: 4,000 = 33 rows (maximum)
Executive boxes: 1,000


Time well spent I'm sure you'll agree !
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 12:14 PM
Jack Duckworth
 
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are you bored by any chance, mate?
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 12:14 PM
believe
 
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£#%&!ing hell i thought i was bored.
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 12:19 PM
Fountz
 
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£#%&!ing hell i thought i was bored.
Says the man with the Pylon thread..



JD.. I am a bit..

Waiting for an email to come through which I'll need to act upon etc etc..

In the mean time I'm cyber slouching around kicking tin cans etc..
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 12:24 PM
dodger
 
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Says the man with the Pylon thread..




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What's wrong with the pylon thread?
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 02:48 PM
Fountz
 
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what if they did the south quadrants?
That includes the quadrants..

93,202 comes from sweeping the large second tier that's over East and West Stand over the SE and SW quadrants and the South Stand itself.

If they were stick a third tier over the Couth Stand so that it became a Mirror image of the north you'd be looking at approx 98,202.
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 02:58 PM
elephantstone
 
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I can't wait
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 03:26 PM
wiganste
 
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It'd look great with 20000 empty seats every game.

Let's go for it!
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 04:08 PM
elephantstone
 
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It'd look great with 20000 empty seats every game.

Let's go for it!
you couldnt sell all your tickets
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 04:42 PM
MrBishi
 
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Originally Posted by Fountz
Never seen this breakdown before ( shown below ), and therefore I don't know how accurate it is, however if United were to run the second tier of the East and West stand around over the South Stand.. that's what I'd calculate the capacity to be.

I work on the premise that they'd reconfigure the existing South Stand like the North Stand..

Technically you should reduce the figure slightly to allow for the inevitable increased media and VIP facilities and the enlarged Disabled section which I believe is supposed to be a proportion of total capacity, however to counter this drop, I haven't including the numbers from the additional executive boxes.

Old Trafford total capacity: 76,212
(capacity numbers are not exact figures)
North Stand: 25,500 = 102 rows of seats
Lower: 4,250 = 17 rows
Upper: 8,000 = 32 rows
2nd tier: 8,250 = 34 rows
3rd tier: 5,000 = 19 rows
East Stand: 11,500 = 89 rows
East Stand lower: 1,500 = 17 rows (disabled section)
East Stand upper: 4,000 = 32 rows
East 2nd Tier: 6000 = 40 rows
West Stand: 12,000 = 89 rows
West Stand lower: 2,000 = 17 rows
West Stand upper: 4,000 = 32 rows
West 2nd Tier: 6000 = 40 rows
South Stand: 11,500 = 48 rows
Lower: 2,500 = 11 rows
Upper: 8,500 = 37 rows
Lower corners: 1,500 = 48 rows x 4
Upper North East Quadrant: 4,000 = 33 rows (maximum)
Upper North West Quadrant: 4,000 = 33 rows (maximum)
Executive boxes: 1,000


Time well spent I'm sure you'll agree !
North Stand T2 is 7,068 (1,080 for exec), T3 is 4,084; quadrants 3,955 each, give or take a bit. So if you copied the North onto to south, including corners, it'd be about 95,274, or 91,190 without T3.

HTH.
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 05:53 PM
Fountz
 
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Originally Posted by MrBishi
North Stand T2 is 7,068 (1,080 for exec), T3 is 4,084; quadrants 3,955 each, give or take a bit. So if you copied the North onto to south, including corners, it'd be about 95,274, or 91,190 without T3.

HTH.
I defer to your more specific and probably more accurate figures.. however I arrived at the figure like this

Current capacity ......76,212

Minus the "old" South Stand .......11,500

= 64,712

Add on the newSouth Stand
built along the lines of the
North Stand + 12,250

Add on a second tier + 8,250

Add on two upper Quadrants
for SE and SW as per
NE and NW ( 2x4000) + 8,000

Equals = 93,212


Anyway.. it's all hypothetical.
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 06:43 PM
user_name
 
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i have been told on more than 1 occasion that the south stand can not be expanded/raised. you can't build any higher as is would block the sun from the pitch and grass would not be able to grow.

however are we really that far away from synthetic playing surfaces?

i'd imagine the glazers are leading the charge.
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 08:48 PM
denis lawless
 
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turn all the bottom tiers into Standing and we'd get to 90,000 or there abouts

make them pay at the gate......£10-15








£#%&! me.....ive just had a fantastic dream.........
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 08:59 PM
toseeunited
 
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minus the rugby posts obviously...



 
Unread 11-02-2008, 09:47 PM
Jack Duckworth
 
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nice work, mate.

aesthetically, it would be fantastic. in terms of the atmosphere, it would be gash.
 
Unread 11-02-2008, 10:27 PM
toseeunited
 
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nice work, mate.

aesthetically, it would be fantastic. in terms of the atmosphere, it would be gash.
yeah - packing more into the southstand aint gonna do £#%&! all for atmos is it
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 10:01 AM
Jack Duckworth
 
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actually, i don't know. if they all clicked their thermos' together they could get one hell of a beat going.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Fountz
 
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i have been told on more than 1 occasion that the south stand can not be expanded/raised. you can't build any higher as is would block the sun from the pitch and grass would not be able to grow.
It would do.. but we were told this back in 94 or so, when the completed the original blueprint and re-did the Stretford, that that was it..

Within months they'd announced plans to re-do the North Stand in time for The European Championships.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 10:21 AM
Fountz
 
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aesthetically, it would be fantastic.
Don't think it would JD..

I quite like a lack of symmetry..

I also hate our roof.. very claustrophobic.

Remember 99 in the Nou Camp looking out at the whole ground and sensing the enormity of the place and occasion.

Don't get that at OT as all you can see is the pitch.

Better now that the quadrants have opened things up, but still not great.
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