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And I disagree entirely, particularly comparing him to the peerless Scholes at his peak. Quote:
However, with the notable exception of Evans and Fletcher (if he even counts as a youngster anymore), we're still going back to the old lads time and time again. I don't see that as something to be celebrated. Liverpool's era was ended by Dalglish leaving with a team that had simply gotten too old. Having a lot of talented youngsters in the squad means nothing if they're not getting the opportunities in big games that will help them blossom into the Giggs/Scholes/Neville/VDS of tomorrow. As for the criticism of my view that this Utd team isn't a patch on the great sides of 93-01, for starters, our central midfield wouldn't get a kick off of any combination of Keane, Ince & Scholes at their peak. VDS is no Schmeichel and we've rarely had striking combinations in recent years that would compare with Hughes/Cantona, Yorke/Cole, Sheringham/Solskjaer. Centre-half is probably at least as strong as in any era but that's still three of the four "spine" positions where Utd are simply not as dominant as they once were. Quote:
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celt, do you think the rest of world football has gone into some kind of crisis? after all, this side which is so much weaker than our previous ones has achieved more success than almost any of them. |
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Think about who Keane and Scholes were up against at European level at their peak? The Arsenal sides that occasionally displaced Utd in the late 90s and early noughties would give our current Prem holders a serious run for their money and probably best them. I think there are a lot of mediocre midfields around currently. Not the foggiest idea why, mind. Quote:
Sure, look at Giggs, one of the finest attacking players of the modern era but also a really nice tackler, tracks back etc. I'd have a bias for more well-rounded players and, to touch on Borsuk's point, with the emphasis on systems now, I think there's a tendency for modern teams to indulge players like Deco and Ronaldo more often than they would long ago. However, it comes at the cost of having more functionaries or "water carriers" to paper over the cracks they leave. |
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porto league and european cup winners indulged him as their fulcrum barca league and european cup winners indulged him as their key link man portugal went to the euro final carrying him man utd won 3 consecutive titles and a european cup indulging ronaldo or you could argue they were class players that elevated the team to their greatest heights these managers that win everything know absolutely nothing don't they. what were they even thinking having these players in the team??? |
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