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Unread 22-03-2019, 11:51 PM
My Name is Heath
 
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Originally Posted by sa7
Maybe ask those who were affected by the La Mon attack whether the IRA is a terrorist group.

Presuming they are able to talk about an incident where people were literally burned alive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_M...aurant_bombing

Jesus, I don’t recall that at all.

Saffers is just wrong on this. That’s terror.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 12:14 AM
Jack Duckworth
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_M...aurant_bombing

Jesus, I don’t recall that at all.

Saffers is just wrong on this. That’s terror.
you will pay the price if you insist on ordering flaming sambucas.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 12:16 AM
red in cumbria
 
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On a similar note - and following a recent Fred discussion on the topic - the alleged REAL Birmingham bombers were named today.

But no, not terrorism.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 12:33 AM
TripDownMiseryLane
 
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When an oppressed population are forced to resort to armed struggle there are inevitably going to be incidents, accidents and tragedies when an untrained, unresourced, amateur civilian group take to the field.

There can be little argument about whether the nationalist population were faced with a set of circumstances where armed resistance was or could be justified, the actions of HMG and the security forces saw to that. One mans terrorist etc.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 12:38 AM
armchair
 
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Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane
When an oppressed population are forced to resort to armed struggle there are inevitably going to be incidents, accidents and tragedies when an untrained, unresourced, amateur civilian group take to the field.

There can be little argument about whether the nationalist population were faced with a set of circumstances where armed resistance was or could be justified, the actions of HMG and the security forces saw to that. One mans terrorist etc.
oh look, another blow in agitator
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 12:59 AM
TravellingRed
 
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They were a terrorist group whether you sypathise with their aims or not. They murdered innocent people who had nothing to do with what the British government were or weren't doing in Northern Ireland.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 01:02 AM
Fat Al
 
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not only were they a terrorist organisation, they were also the blue print for other terrorist organisations.
The Cell blueprint they used was developed by the SOE/OSS during WW2 & the Viet Minh/Viet Cong in Indochina/Vietnam.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 01:10 AM
tatty
 
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Who else, apart from saffers, doesn't think the IRA was a terrorist organization?
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 01:16 AM
armchair
 
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i'll eventually convert saffers and it will be glorious
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 01:52 AM
Chris Quayd
 
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Who else, apart from saffers, doesn't think the IRA was a terrorist organization?
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 01:58 AM
Cream
 
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Declan Rice: West Ham and England youngster apologises for ‘Up the RA’ posts on social media.

https://talksport.com/football/51519...gland-upthera/

Still haven't seen that

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Originally Posted by sa7
Maybe ask those who were affected by the La Mon attack whether the IRA is a terrorist group.

Presuming they are able to talk about an incident where people were literally burned alive.
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Originally Posted by TravellingRed
They were a terrorist group whether you sypathise with their aims or not. They murdered innocent people who had nothing to do with what the British government were or weren't doing in Northern Ireland.
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In 2012, a news article claimed that two members of the IRA bombing team, including the getaway driver, were British double agents working for MI5. According to the article, one of the agents was Denis Donaldson.[7]
Bit awks.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 02:12 PM
Alex Jones was Right
 
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They were a terrorist group whether you sypathise with their aims or not. They murdered innocent people who had nothing to do with what the British government were or weren't doing in Northern Ireland.
So every army is thus a terrororist group.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 02:24 PM
Redrum
 
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So every army is thus a terrororist group.
You've not thought this through. The Barmy Army are an example of an army that is not a terrorist organisation.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 02:27 PM
believe
 
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You've not thought this through. The Barmy Army are an example of an army that is not a terrorist organisation.
[offoh]did some terrorizing with the Red Army back in the day :cool[/offoh]
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 02:47 PM
Cream
 
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You've not thought this through. The Barmy Army are an example of an army that is not a terrorist organisation.


Also these guyz.

 
Unread 23-03-2019, 02:55 PM
Lazlo Panaflex
 
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If you doubt the Ira were a terrorist organisation, then you may not have much of a clue what happened.

E.g. forcing civilians to drive proxy bombs in suicide attacks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb

As armchair alluded to, they wrote half the book on terror tactics.

And they also brought horrific misery to their own communities.

Every armed organisation in the troubles were engaged in terror. Including the legal armies.
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 05:57 PM
red in cumbria
 
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As a backbench MP Corbyn repeatedly condemned IRA violence, even when he was meeting with Sinn Fein and the like. But don't let that stop you
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 06:54 PM
armchair
 
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Originally Posted by Lazlo Panaflex
If you doubt the Ira were a terrorist organisation, then you may not have much of a clue what happened.

E.g. forcing civilians to drive proxy bombs in suicide attacks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb

As armchair alluded to, they wrote half the book on terror tactics.

And they also brought horrific misery to their own communities.

Every armed organisation in the troubles were engaged in terror. Including the legal armies.
we dominate terrorism and the special olympics
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 07:00 PM
no fun
 
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Originally Posted by Lazlo Panaflex
If you doubt the Ira were a terrorist organisation, then you may not have much of a clue what happened.

E.g. forcing civilians to drive proxy bombs in suicide attacks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bomb

As armchair alluded to, they wrote half the book on terror tactics.

And they also brought horrific misery to their own communities.

Every armed organisation in the troubles were engaged in terror. Including the legal armies.
Agree with all that, but should point out that the civilians used in the proxy bombs were viewed, rightly or wrongly, as being part of the “Brit war machine” and were therefore seen as “legitimate targets”
 
Unread 23-03-2019, 07:14 PM
Lazlo Panaflex
 
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Agree with all that, but should point out that the civilians used in the proxy bombs were viewed, rightly or wrongly, as being part of the “Brit war machine” and were therefore seen as “legitimate targets”
They could be a bit loose with their accusations tbf. To them jean mcconville was a legitimate target.
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