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The bit lineker did on bbc was cringy to watch. Bad mouthing a country after taking hundreds and thousands in appearance fees for covering the tournament he is bad mouthing. If teams were serious they should have got together and boycotted it. But that’s never the way. Ideally teams turn and say no we aren’t playing and take the hit. But the fact remains , when it comes to human rights nobody really cares because things like money and entertainment will always trump them |
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I don’t like the fact that we sell arms to the Saudis but I’m not actively campaigning against it. I don’t like explorative labour practices delivering us iPhones but I still buy iPhones. It doesn’t mean you can’t still hold a moral argument about MUFC ownership ffs. There’s loads of reasons why I’m against it - principally because my kids will end up watching a team that dominates in a league in which Middle East owned clubs will dominate and I think that’s s**t all round. Stickers - tough one -neither - both models are terrible in my view. I think the glazer ownership arguably protects football more generally than the oligarch Middle East version which radically distorts everything. Glazers with considerably less debt and a more sensible hierarchy would be fine. I wish we had followed the German model though. That’s easily the best and has been consistently successful. |
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Fwiw I’m slightly nervous about the Qatar takeover. Having worked in most of the gulf countries, Qatar has been the most difficult because they really do like to be in control. Emiratis and the saudis are quite happy to take a back seat but Qataris are definitely not.
I’ve no idea about the goings on at PSG but it will be interesting to see what involvement they have if things progress. |
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We should bother, I don’t like the Middle Eastern ( or any other billionaires who exploit human rights) . But there is absolutely nothing I can do about it if anyone is serious about the owners and their exploitation of workers/rights etc they would stop supporting the club the moment they join. Simple as. Otherwise they’re being hypocrites |
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No doubt We’ll still go irrespective of the ownership but we’ll end up loving the club (and football generally) less than I wish we could have. Oh look, we’ve trounced Burnley 10-0 again. Great. Guess what, we’re playing city in the final for the 10 consecutive year etc. |
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City would never, ever have got to where they are without breaking the rules.
Think back to the Robinho signing, he didn't even know which club he was signing for.... All the money under the table and off the books is the only way they could sign top managers, players like aguero toure etc who were the bedrock of their success. They were a nothing club, less than nothing, utterly unknown outside of Stockport... I'm not exactly thrilled about getting taken over by oil money, but it sure as shit beats having debt leveraged against the club and not being able to throw money around that is rightfully ours. As armers said, we can spend huge amounts within the rules. We're by far the biggest club in England, one of the top 2 or 3 in the world and our spending and pulling power should be able to reflect that. |
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Secondly you're missing the point entirely. Supporting Man United isn't some sort of binary choice I've made. I'm saying that it won't sit right with me as person, so that IS going to affect my support. Maybe if it goes through it won't affect it enough to really change anything in the long run, maybe I'll continue to watch and support at around the same level. But I'm pretty certain I won't. From how I'm feeling with just the prospect of it happening then I doubt I'm going to be that invested anymore. Is what it is. I'd happily support the club though relegation after relegation, down into the non-leagues. I couldn't give a £#%&!. My support of the club has never been reliant on success to make myself feel better about my life. I'd much rather see us plummet the divisions than backing a club the size of Manchester United bending over and selling ourselves even more just to try and stay relevant in a sport already rankly overinflated with quick cash. All this talk about Mbappe. Couldn't imagine being a grown man and getting excited about what is effectively disturbingly rich men real life Panani player trading. £#%&! that. |
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If you forget the Qatari aspect, if we signed him under fregal you'd be pretty chuffed! |
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Now Mbappe's just being moved from one department to another. Like he could give a £#%&! he's at United now, as long as the big daddy at the top is paying, and he'll be somewhere else that's behind on their workload in a bit anyway. Just keep telling everyone you're happy to be at Manchester... eeerr... United, and that everything is great. If that's what gets people off then crack on, but life's too short for me to try and convince myself that it's actually a really good thing for some reason or another. If you have kids, I can sort of understand it. |
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Completely respect where you're coming from and have very mixed feelings, but at the end of the day, given the options would much rather be owned by Qatar than the Glazers. |
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