Where does OGS start??

Originally Posted by AK14

Need leaders in and around them though

You don’t win anything with kids...



Seriously though we need genuine leaders this summer.

We need good players with everything to prove, they'll grow into leaders if they have the right mentality, buying leaders is nigh on impossible and/or outrageously expensive.

We have to make the superstars and leaders to re-build the side. We can't buy them.

Originally Posted by dunk

We need good players with everything to prove, they'll grow into leaders if they have the right mentality, buying leaders is nigh on impossible and/or outrageously expensive.

We have to make the superstars and leaders to re-build the side. We can't buy them.

It's a fool's errand, most great sides have leaders that have either grown into that role at the club, or on rarer occasions, are in the final years of their careers. You can't just go and buy them in their prime.

Originally Posted by Sandman

It's a fool's errand, most great sides have leaders that have either grown into that role at the club, or on rarer occasions, are in the final years of their careers. You can't just go and buy them in their prime.

Never really got how you can even do due diligence on character before you sign a player. Unless the buying manager knows someone who knows the player you can only judge character properly when it is in your presence.

Should be breaking down Leverkusen's door for Kai Havertz nqat..

https://twitter.com/SportingLifeFC/status/1121867757841203203?s=20

Could buy Tah, Brandt and Bailey off them as well tbh.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Whatever Ole's qualities as a manager, you'd expect him to be able to have a good take on the character of the squad. If he believes there are any players who are genuinely problematic, I think the club have to act swiftly. I hope that isn't someone like Pogba or Martial as they're basically our two best players, but if it is then so be it. Same goes for De Gea is there's a belief his head has gone.

I'm sure he has ideas about how he wants his team to play, so identifying targets should be easy if we have a decent scouting network as we're told is now the case. We need to get back to having a quality, balanced squad that gives us hope regardless of who the manager is.

Was pondering the other night. As absolutely horrendous as it was watching LVG, it was the last extended period of time where we had an identifiable style of play bar Ole’s amazing start here.

Originally Posted by dunk

Should be breaking down Leverkusen's door for Kai Havertz nqat..

https://twitter.com/SportingLifeFC/s...841203203?s=20

Could buy Tah, Brandt and Bailey off them as well tbh.

Buy the club

Originally Posted by Buck

Buy the club

Probably cheaper tbf.

Originally Posted by dunk

Should be breaking down Leverkusen's door for Kai Havertz nqat..

https://twitter.com/SportingLifeFC/s...841203203?s=20

Could buy Tah, Brandt and Bailey off them as well tbh.

Good £#%&!ing luck with that.

Another summer of chasing Bale, Ronaldo and Kronos awaits

Originally Posted by sa7

Good £#%&!ing luck with that.

Another summer of chasing Bale, Ronaldo and Kronos awaits

Maybe I should be DoF...

Originally Posted by dunk

We need good players with everything to prove, they'll grow into leaders if they have the right mentality, buying leaders is nigh on impossible and/or outrageously expensive.

We have to make the superstars and leaders to re-build the side. We can't buy them.

Yeah maybe.

They’re out there though, Just look at the impact Van Dijk has had.

We can’t just have a squad full of promising players, we need one or two with genuine leadership too. Scouts should be able to find them tbf

Possibly players that have been captain of their clubs or national sides, Showed leadership qualities coming up through the youth ranks,
Whether Instagram is more important to them than actually playing football.

Originally Posted by dunk

Maybe I should be DoF...

Didn’t you want us to sign Sahin?...

No thanks, we'll stick with Ed.

Originally Posted by AK14

Yeah maybe.

They’re out there though, Just look at the impact Van Dijk has had.

We can’t just have a squad full of promising players, we need one or two with genuine leadership too. Scouts should be able to find them tbf

Possibly players that have been captain of their clubs or national sides, Showed leadership qualities coming up through the youth ranks,
Whether Instagram is more important to them than actually playing football.



Didn’t you want us to sign Sahin?...

No thanks, we'll stick with Ed.

We would've had a midfielder at least, and it was purely because he was available on loan...

Originally Posted by dunk

Maybe I should be DoF...

Brandt is a class act as well. Never really understand why we don't go for these types?

Originally Posted by Buck

Never really got how you can even do due diligence on character before you sign a player. Unless the buying manager knows someone who knows the player you can only judge character properly when it is in your presence.

It's almost like a good scouting system with an extensive knowledge of the football world would be a good thing to have.

Originally Posted by Pepe le Pew

It's almost like a good scouting system with an extensive knowledge of the football world would be a good thing to have.

Agreed. United were good at identifying promising players and then developing them. It's likely the case the Glazers stripped back on infrastructure spending that brings in those players or the club is jusr too inept to get it right.

We've been a disaster in the transfer market for years. No finer example than Sanchez.

'Fun fact: Adam Johnson has more premier league assists in the last six seasons than Jesse Lingard. And Johnson has been in prison for three of them

Start by getting this little goblin out of our best 11.

Originally Posted by Clownbones

'Fun fact: Adam Johnson has more premier league assists in the last six seasons than Jesse Lingard. And Johnson has been in prison for three of them

Start by getting this little goblin out of our best 11.

Never been good enough, survived only this long because of our merry go round of managers and the fact he's from our youth team.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Never been good enough, survived only this long because of our merry go round of managers and the fact he's from our youth team.

I also think he's a symptom of the state of our dressing room. Blatantly gets games simply because he's popular among the players, as if there's a fear that if he isn't included they'll be unhappy. Shouldn't be about that, should be based first and foremost on what you contribute on the pitch. He's shite and can't wait for him to be gone.

Originally Posted by Clownbones

'Fun fact: Adam Johnson has more premier league assists in the last six seasons than Jesse Lingard. And Johnson has been in prison for three of them

Start by getting this little goblin out of our best 11.

How many games, and minutes played, did those assists come in?

Originally Posted by Sandman

How many games, and minutes played, did those assists come in?

I haven't got a £#%&!ing clue mate.

Originally Posted by Clownbones

'Fun fact: Adam Johnson has more premier league assists in the last six seasons than Jesse Lingard. And Johnson has been in prison for three of them

Start by getting this little goblin out of our best 11.

But how much space did Johnson make for others during that time?